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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

ExecLine - 16 Jun 2009 08:27 - 7696 of 81564

'Phwoar' or not 'Phwoar'? That is the question.

As usual, the law is an ass, IMHO. What on earth was such a pious Muslim girl doing working as a cocktail waitress?


Muslim cocktail waitress Fata Lemes wearing the red dress
Photo: TIM STEWART NEWS LIMITED

Muslim waitress wins nearly 3,000 for hurt feelings over skimpy dress
A Muslim cocktail waitress who resigned after being ordered to wear a "revealing" dress for work that offended her religious beliefs has won 3,000 for sexual harassment despite having posed for photographs in a low-cut top.
Published: 7:00AM BST 16 Jun 2009

Fata Lemes, 33, who claimed her upbringing meant she was "not used to wearing sexually attractive clothes", was handed the payout even though it later emerged pictures of her in a revealing top had appeared on Facebook, the social-networking site.

Miss Lemes later insisted that the photo was taken on a beach and was irrelevant to her claim that the dress she was asked to wear at the Rocket Bar in Mayfair made her "look like a prostitute".

The tribunal panel concluded that the Bosnian Muslim "holds views about modesty and decency which some might think unusual in Britain in the 21st century".

But it accepted that she genuinely believed that the short, low-cut dress was "disgusting" and made her look "like a prostitute".

It ruled that her bosses should have made allowance for her feelings and their insistence that she wear the dress amounted to sexual harassment, it ruled.

Lawyers for Spring & Greene, the restaurant group that owns the bar, highlighted the existence of the Facebook picture to the tribunal but it is not known whether the panel ever saw it before making their judgment.

The panel at Central London Employment Tribunal found that Miss Lemes "overstated" her trauma at being asked to wear the sleeveless dress that was open at the back.

It rejected Miss Lemes' claim that she was left with no choice but to walk out of her job after just eight days.

It branded her compensation claim of 20,000 including 17,500 for hurt feelings as "manifestly absurd".

But it awarded her 2,919.95 for hurt feelings and loss of earnings.

Miss Lemes, who had previously worn black trousers and top to work, told the tribunal that she "might as well be naked" in the dress, adding: "I was brought up a Muslim and am not used to wearing sexually attractive clothes."

In its judgment, the panel ruled that restaurant group Spring & Greene must "take their victim as they find her".

It said of the dress: "It is eye-catching, not only because of its colour but also because of its cut and lines.

"It is clearly a garment for a girl or young woman. It is intended to, and does, show the curves of the body.

"It seeks to make the wearer attractive. It might be seen as a party dress or something to wear at an informal celebration."

But the panel ruled that wearing the dress could not amount to "conduct of a sexual nature".

Miss Lemes told how she was pestered for sex by customers at the bar shortly after starting work in May last year.

The tribunal ruled: "In our judgment, the effect of requiring her to wear the dress was to violate her dignity. We further consider that it created for her an environment which was degrading, humiliating and offensive."

It pointed out that a summer uniform of "brightly coloured, figure-hugging garb" had not been introduced for male waiting staff.

But the tribunal rejected Miss Lemes' claim of constructive dismissal.

The company's lawyer Tom Grady told the tribunal: "There is no evidence to support the suggestion that it is a sex club or some sort of seedy brothel."

Here's Fata's Facebook picture:

greekman - 16 Jun 2009 08:44 - 7697 of 81564

On a beach or not. Taken without her permission, so what. Next she will be saying that she was forced to wear the dress before she went onto the beach. I can't see any embarrassment on her face (red Dress Picture).
And just what did she think a cocktail waitress would be required to wear, a full Hijab.
No doubt her next move will be to apply to be a stripper or a lap dancer, so that when she is asked to strip or sit on a mans lap she can scream 'sexual harassment', and win a few more thousand.
Like you say, 'The law is an ass', or is it just pro anything not indigenous British.

hewittalan6 - 16 Jun 2009 08:48 - 7698 of 81564

The law may indeed be an ass, but what does that make us, for allowing the law to make these decisions?

We should be hollering from the rooftops for change, and to allow the indigenous to have their culture supreme over any other on any point of law where there is a conflict.

May seem a little right wing, but it is the product of left wing policy for 30 years.

oblomov - 16 Jun 2009 09:08 - 7699 of 81564

Sorry to change the subject to shares (is it allowed on this thread?) but does anyone know what usually happens when a company of which you are a shareholder is bought out by an overseas company? A year ago I sold all my Stanelco shares (phew!) and bought into Rift Oil with the proceeds at 6p. Rift have accepted an offer from a Canadian co. at 13p a share, the shares are now trading at 12.5p but there appears to be massive selling. Presumably the company has to remain registered in the UK or the new company buy up all existing shares? If not what happens to my shares? I can't under stand why everyone would be selling.

tyketto - 16 Jun 2009 09:23 - 7700 of 81564

Lets hope that the lawyer who advised her charges 3000 for their advice.

Kayak - 16 Jun 2009 09:49 - 7701 of 81564

oblo, if an offer has been made at 13p then provided you accept and the offer goes through, you will be paid the 13p sometime in the future. If you don't want to wait until the payment date (given in the offer information) or gamble on the (normally small) chance that the offer might not go through, then you can sell in the market. There are people in the market happy to buy your shares at a discount and sell them to the Canadian company later for 13p.

oblomov - 16 Jun 2009 09:55 - 7702 of 81564

Thanks Kayak - appreciate you taking the time to explain. What I don't understand is why people are selling at 12.5p - possibly they don't think it will go through?

Kayak - 16 Jun 2009 10:04 - 7703 of 81564

There is always a chance it won't go through, normally small but sometimes not. It depends on the conditions of the offer. Once the offer has gone 'unconditional' then the chance is minimal since all the conditions have been met.

The other reason is that people who have another use for their money may prefer to have 12.5p now and reinvest it rather than waiting weeks for the extra 0.5p.

oblomov - 16 Jun 2009 10:33 - 7704 of 81564

So, presumably, you could buy now at 12.5p and if the deal goes through be sure of picking up 0.5p per share profit?

rawdm999 - 16 Jun 2009 10:50 - 7705 of 81564

oblo, the co. doesn't have to remain listed in the UK. That should have been specified somewhere if its intention is to delist i would think. It could be complicated to sell through a canadian broker (if UK brokers stop dealing it) if it does delist hence the selling. You could do with clarifying the listing position.

Kayak - 16 Jun 2009 11:55 - 7706 of 81564

Yep oblo, that is what the arbitrageurs who buy at 12.5p are relying on, though of course there is a risk it doesn't go through and the price crashes!

oblomov - 16 Jun 2009 12:33 - 7707 of 81564

Thanks raw and Kayak. I'm hoping someone else will pop up out of the woodwork and make a better bid!

This_is_me - 05 Jul 2009 00:31 - 7708 of 81564

The Effect of Political Correctness and Government Policies on Education




Teaching maths in 1970

1. A logger sells a truckload of timber for 100.

His cost of production is 4/5 of the price.

What is his profit?


2. Teaching Maths In 1980

A logger sells a truckload of timber for 100.

His cost of production is 80% of the price.

What is his profit?


3. Teaching Maths In 1990

A logger sells a truckload of timber for 100.

His cost of production is 80.

How much was his profit?


4. Teaching Maths In 2000

A logger sells a truckload of timber for 100.

His cost of production is 80 and his profit is
20..

Your assignment: Underline the number 20.


5. Teaching Maths In 2005

A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is
selfish and inconsiderate and cares nothing for the
habit of animals or the preservation of our woodlands.
Your assignment: Discuss how the birds and squirrels
might feel as the logger cut down their homes just for
a measly profit of 20.


6. Teaching Maths In 2009

A logger is arrested for trying to cut down a tree in case
it may be offensive to Muslims or other religious
groups not consulted in the felling licence. He is
also fined a 100 as his chainsaw is in breach of
Health and Safety legislation as it deemed too
dangerous and could cut something. He has used the
chainsaw for over 20 years without incident however he does
not have the correct certificate of competence and is
therefore considered to be a recidivist and habitual
criminal. His DNA is sampled and his details
circulated throughout all government agencies. He
protests and is taken to court and fined another 100
because he is such an easy target. When he is released he
returns t o find Gypsies have cut down half his wood
to build a camp on his land. He tries to throw them
off but is arrested, prosecuted for harassing an ethnic
minority, imprisoned and fined a further 100. While
he is in jail the Gypsies cut down the rest of his
wood and sell it on the black market for 100 cash. They
also have a leaving BBQ of squirrel and pheasant and
depart leaving behind several tonnes of rubbish and
asbestos sheeting. The forester on release is warned
that failure to clear the fly tipped rubbish
immediately at his own cost is an offence. He
complains and is arrested for environmental pollution,
breach of the peace and invoiced 12,000 plus VAT for
safe disposal costs by a regulated government contractor.


Your assignment: How many times is the logger going
to have to be arrested and fined before he realises that he
is never going to make 20 profit by hard work, give
up, sign onto the dole and live off the state for the
rest of his life?


7. Teaching Maths In 2010

A logger doesnt sell a lorry load of timber
because he cant get a loan to buy a new lorry
because his bank has spent all his and their money on a
derivative of securitised debt related to sub-prime
mortgages in Alabama and lost the lot with only some
government money left to pay a few million pound bonuses to
their senior directors and the traders who made the
biggest losses.


The logger struggles to pay the 1,200 road tax on
his old lorry however, as it was built in the 1970s it
no longer meets the emissions regulations and he is
forced to scrap it.


Some Bulgarian loggers buy the lorry from the scrap
merchant and put it back on the road. They undercut everyone
on price for haulage and send their cash back home,
while claiming unemployment for themselves and their
relatives. If questioned they speak no English and it
is easier to deport them at the governments expense.
Following their holiday back home they return to the
UK with different names and fresh girls and start
again. The logger protests, is accused of being a bigoted
racist and as his name is on the side of his old lorry
he is forced to pay 1,500 registration fees as a
gang master.


The Government borrows more money to pay more to the
bankers as bonus's are not cheap. The parliamentarians
feel they are missing out and claim the difference on
expenses and allowances.

You do the maths.


8. Teaching Maths 2017

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ExecLine - 05 Jul 2009 09:16 - 7709 of 81564

Remember the gobby lady 'Rottweiler' pictured with Lucinda Ledgerwood and to the left side of the following picture?



Just to give you a better idea, here is a picture of her in her swim suit, just as she was then:



Back then, she was a size 16 and weighed 13st 8lb. At 5ft 6in she was more than 3st overweight and her BMI of 30.2 meant she was clinically obese.

Her thighs rubbed together, her belly wobbled and her breasts strained against the tops she wore.

After some very disciplined dieting using some achievable goals (eg, rather than go for it to lose 3st, try losing 7 lbs every four weeks) and some similarly disciplined exercise prgrammes in the gym, well, here's the latest picture of her:



And her name?

Do you remember Claire Young from The Apprentice in 2008?

Well done Claire!

greekman - 06 Jul 2009 08:09 - 7710 of 81564

This is me,

Thanks for starting my week with a laugh. Very very funny. Also sad but true.
Will forward his on to many people.

Cheers Greekman.

HiThere - 06 Jul 2009 10:29 - 7711 of 81564

might be taliking to myself but here's a live trading video if anyone's interested

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm1xWozLDd8

jimmy b - 09 Jul 2009 17:12 - 7712 of 81564



Dam that's Wimbledon over for another year...

kimoldfield - 09 Jul 2009 19:33 - 7713 of 81564

New balls please!

jimmy b - 11 Jul 2009 11:52 - 7714 of 81564




Clever Duck..

jailhaynes - 11 Jul 2009 18:10 - 7715 of 81564

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