pthwaite
- 20 Sep 2004 10:27
CEY is a gold mining company operating in Egypt. It was ordered by the Egyptian Government to stop drilling pending a legal dispute brought against the company by a government minister.
Since then, the whole Government cabinet was replaced a few months ago and the minister now in charge of Mining is believed to be positive on Western investment in the country. CEY are pushing for this minister to allow them to continue drilling ASAP; investers are waiting....patiently.
As soon as the company gets the go-ahead to continue drilling, the share price will move north; CEY has plenty of gold in this mine and it is (apparantly) the case of "raking" it out rather than drilling for it!
Check them out...worthy of a punt.
HARRYCAT
- 11 Mar 2011 16:53
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Interesting reply to a letter sent to Shares Mag by one of it's readers:
Dan Coatsworth of Shares Mag replies: Geopolitical risk comes with the territory in mining. There are far more riskier places than Egypt which have attracted takeover interest, such as the Democratic Republic of Congo. Put simply, if the assets are of sufficient size such as Centamins Sukari gold deposit their owner is going to be a takeover target for one of the major resource groups, no matter what the location.With regards to the Concession Agreement between Egypt and Centamin, we have analysed the companys documents and spoken with its advisers to give the following summary of the arrangement.
Centamin owns half of the operating company, the rest is owned by the government therefore they share equally the net profits from the mine.The government has the right to take back the project in the event of national emergency, due to war or imminent expectation of war or internal causes. Centamin says it does not foresee this happening and that it has not seen to date any material adverse effect to the Sukari operation arising from current events in Egypt. Centamin has to pay 3% royalty on sales revenue but pays no other tax. Goldman Sachs reckons the result of the profit sharing and royalty means that Centamin effectively pays 38% corporate tax rate. From 2014 this will be around 48% of net cashflow. Payments to the government start after full capital expenditure recovery. Analysts reckon this will start in 2014. The concession agreement will be renegotiated in 2025."
aldwickk
- 11 Mar 2011 19:10
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So in a nut shell ?
HARRYCAT
- 11 Mar 2011 21:25
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Imo, CEY isn't as independent as one originally thought. If the government wanted to take complete control, they would have little problem, which puts a bit of a damper on the growth potential. Coupled with the imminent 48% tax to be levied on net cashflow, the reward v the risk seems less appealing to me.
kernow
- 13 Mar 2011 21:27
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..and maybe Tanker had a point a couple of weeks back re. takeover by a new regime. Bless.
However as long as gold rides high I'm still in.
goldfinger
- 16 Mar 2011 10:19
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Balerboy
- 16 Mar 2011 11:14
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some of us are already here:(( 168p thought that was a good entry at that time.,.
dealerdear
- 16 Mar 2011 11:19
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Don't worry BB. You're not alone!
What is far more worrying are the underlying market conditions. With few exceptions, what does go up seems to retreat very quickly. Perhaps it will sort itself out in due course but at the moment I am extremely worried about the health of the SM/economy.
goldfinger
- 22 Mar 2011 16:24
- 779 of 2354
Director Buys.....
Director Deals - Centamin Egypt (CEY)
BFN
Mark Arnesen, Non Executive Director, bought 15,000 shares in the company on the 21st March 2011 at a price of 128.77p. The Director now holds 15,000 shares representing 0.00% of the shares in issue.
Story provided by StockMarketWire.com
Director deals data provided by www.directorsholdings.com
cynic
- 22 Mar 2011 16:48
- 780 of 2354
a peanut director buy is totally unimportant ..... my own concern is that the 25 dma proves to be a support rather than a resistance as has been the case for the last few months - sp therefore needs to start heading north pronto
goldfinger
- 22 Mar 2011 16:56
- 781 of 2354
Maiden purchase though , cyners.
HARRYCAT
- 22 Mar 2011 18:23
- 782 of 2354
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niceonecyril
- 28 Mar 2011 00:03
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HARRYCAT
- 05 Apr 2011 10:15
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Interesting that CEY hasn't recovered more than it has now that things seem to have settled down in Egypt. Presumably, 180p+ won't happen until the elections in the autumn and the threat of nationalisation/licence reviews has passed. Shame that CEY is only a one mine company. If they had interests elsewhere they would at least spread the risk a little. Can't decide whether to buy some for medium term recovery or to just watch.
cynic
- 05 Apr 2011 10:34
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just bouncing off 50 dma so arguably not a bad entry point ..... don't forget this is the last trading day of fiscal year, so quite a lot of book squaring and similar
mnamreh
- 05 Apr 2011 16:09
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Balerboy
- 05 Apr 2011 17:04
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All this time and i've never read your name backwards hermanm lol cynics a clever bu**er at times.,.
cynic
- 05 Apr 2011 17:10
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see, i'm not just a pretty face!
mnamreh
- 05 Apr 2011 17:19
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cynic
- 05 Apr 2011 17:25
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did you kill him, or only metaphorically? ..... your husband, not the pussy!