Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Alan Duncan said: "MPs are living on "rations" and being treated "like shit".

After a grovelling apology to his boss, David Cameron, millionaire Duncan is being allowed to stay on as shadow Commons Leader - and with responsibility for MPs' pay and allowances.

Mr Cameron said: "I made it clear the actions we take have got to demonstrate that we share the public's fury."

ExecLine said: "Rubbish! How can David Cameron keep Duncan in a job so closely involved with MPs' allowances? Oh Yes, I forgot. It must be to do with the tough stance Cameron is taking on this topic and also the skill he is using, which of course, includes picking the right man for the job in the first place."

Totally agree. Even if he was joking (which I don't think he was) it would just go to show how much our MP's hold us in contempt.

Also on the news this am

Sir Patrick Cormack has complained that his 64,000 salary was not enough to allow him to make donations to charity.
'One is expected to give liberally to all manner of charities, one is expected to attend all manner of events, one is expected constantly to be putting one's hand into one's pocket,' he added (a bit like us tax payers).

High-profile MP Nadine Dorries made things worse by blaming the media rather than politicians for the expenses scandal. She also claimed she recently assisted at a road accident but was too frightened to admit her identity as an MP, such was the publics anger. Poor lamb.

A Conservative MP has survived an attempt to deselect her following her involvement in the parliamentary expenses row.
Anne Main, the MP for St Albans, had allowed her daughter to live rent-free at a taxpayer-funded flat she claimed was her second home for the purposes of expenses.
No doubt she will be elected as it will be a case of which fiddling b*****d do we vote for. Pathetic.

Calf born with an MP's brain (ie. Half a brain for every gobbler)

Cow gives birth to calf with four eyes, two mouths and only one pair of ears

That Nadine Dorries scene in my head just won't go away. "Let me through, let me through, I'm a Member of Parliament."

Just what you need when you're about to draw your last breath. Not sure why she thought it was relevant for anyone to know?

Thats what I though, who would she tell and why.
But then I thought, what if someone at the scene had required mouth to mouth. Who better than a so full of hot air (wind) MP.

MPs don't fill in their expenses claims any differently than a lot of people!

I just had to move my daughter's car - clio with NO power steering - what a struggle - I felt like I needed oxygen after grappling with it.

But there are a several differences.

1 They can claim quite substantial amounts without completing/producing receipts to prove the amounts spent.

2 When/if they are caught, which is far less likely as proven by the period and extent it has been occurring, often nothing happens even if it is criminal (see No 3).

3 Until the 21/07/09 Parliament -- the House of Commons set their own rules, IE they were, and to a large extent still remain a law unto themselves.

4 The Department of Resources (auditors) in the MPs case knew that fiddling was going on but allowed it to continue, something that would be very unlikely in the private employment sector.

5 As they represent us the Tax Payer, who pay their salaries (and none tax payers) it is our money that pays their expenses, and yet we have no power in their instant removal.

6 We have no choice to be a customer of HM Government/Opposition, whereas we have a choice as to be a customer of a company or not.

I have had a T shirt printed which states....UK MPS are Institutionally Morally Corrupt. Democracy is Dead.

I wear this with every time I go to my nearest town Beverley, which is where our local MPS and Councillors (who are about as dishonest) stand and preach their sermons every other week-end. Since the expenses scandal they are hardly ever seen.

No wonder you call yourself 'skinny'! I thought all modern cars had power stearing. Have you checked if it has a broken power stearing?

Let's all vote for greekman at the next election on the no expenses ticket!

This-is-me.

Thanks for that. I am at present asking for donations to my becoming an MP fighting fund.
Cheques to be made out to Theo Paradopistricadiousikis, sent C/O Muchfailski General Bank, 1 Muchogracious Street, Helsinki.

All monies will then be transfered into my Bermudan bank account (too complicated to explain here, but it is nothing to do with money laundering, it's to save on money transfer rates), from where I will run my election campaign, solely due of course to the savings on my expenses (less tax).

Also to save on my expenses, no receipts will be issued, re any donations, but you can trust me, as 'I'm a pretty straight sort of guy' with apologise to Tony 'teflon' Blair.

I am sorry to have to be the one to tell you greek but there has just been a new EU regulation issued that any MP or MEP not claiming at least 1,000,000 in expenses per year will be disqualified and thrown on the dole since anyone not needing that kind of expenses is obviously not doing any work. Since you state that you will not need any expenses that means, according to the new regulation, that you are in effect saying that you will not do any work and are therefore disbared from standing for any elected position in the EU.

If you want to claim 1.000,000 in expenses let me know. You can pay me the 1,000,000 a year as your assistant and your problem will be solved.

Obama's ambassadors continue to refuse to pay 3.5m congestion charge bill

In total, embassies owe more 28 million in fines on top of unpaid congestion charges. Americas fines are the highest, with Russia owing 2.6 million and Japan 2.3 million.

A TfL spokesman said: More than three-quarters of all embassies pay the congestion charge. It is therefore disappointing that the American embassy continues to refuse to pay. TfL and the UK Government are agreed that the congestion charge is a charge for a service and not a tax which means that diplomats are not exempt from payment. All staff at the American Embassy should pay it, in the same way as British officials pay road tolls in the United States. TfL continues to engage directly with those embassies that refuse to pay in order to increase compliance with the scheme by diplomats.

The non-paying embassies are saying that is a tax and not a charge for a service, and therefore that is why they should be exempt from having to pay it.

Meanwhile Boris continues with his holiday....

ExecLine,

Another example to the world that shows yet again what a soft touch we are. But of course we Brits must obey the rules whilst everyone else ignores them.
Johnny foreigner must be laughing their socks off.

This-is-me,

OK as a good British citizen I must obey the rules, so I will claim the required amount (reluctantly and under the strongest protest of course).

It's exam time....

Just a couple of comments from my local paper:

I am an employer who constantly see job applications from these so-called "star pupils' - most of whom are not even capable of stringing together enough words or English grammar to present themselves properly - either orally or in prose. This is nothing to do with "dumbing-down" the examinations per se. It is about what is acceptable in the schools, and it seems that most schools (and parents) find in perfectly acceptable that A-Level students can't even spell properly, let alone carry on an intelligent conversation. There is a very good reason why we have accepted norms of spelling and grammar - it is so we know what each other is talking about.
.................

I wonder how many people, particularly like the above poster, know that the procedure forced on teachers now is that they are NOT allowed - yes, thats right, not allowed, to correct spelling mistakes and grammar errors in a pupil's work.

Its no good making out that kids these days are thick because they havent put the work in. How do they know they've done something wrong if they are simply just never told about it?

When my children have homework, they always do it in rough and I correct it for them. However a large number of parents do not have the knowledge to be able to do this, which means poor English is now being passed down through the generations.

Unless this stupid Government directive is stopped, things will only get worse. Especially when you get people complaining about kids' grammar and spelling, who dont and can't even check that belonging to their own!

Find my 16 year old son correcting my grammar these days. Also he can hold a conversation with my mother about historical fact that I haven't a clue about or can't really remember. Makes me proud and frustrated in the same measure!

Oh dear! But not entirely unexpected....

VAT holiday over as tax revenue collapses

Rate will return to 17.5% from start of next year
Annual deficit likely to exceed 175bn forecast

Larry Elliott, economics editor guardian.co.uk
Thursday 20 August 2009 20.31

The Treasury dashed hopes of an extension to the government's VAT holiday tonight after the latest figures for public borrowing revealed a collapse in tax revenues and prompted City forecasts of a 200bn deficit for the whole financial year.

With the City taken aback by the rapid deterioration in the state's finances, aides to the chancellor, Alistair Darling, stressed that the Treasury could not afford the 12bn cost of the VAT cut for a second year and the tax would return to 17.5% from January 1.

Data from the Office for National Statistics underlined the impact of the recession on the government's coffers today and left Darling with no room for manoeuvre in this autumn's pre-budget report.

Business groups have been pressing for the extension of tax breaks to safeguard the economy from a double-dip recession, but Darling will insist that the government's credibility with the financial markets is more important.

The chancellor deliberately made cautious assumptions for the deficit in the budget, but the 5.6% contraction in the economy has blown an even bigger hole in the public finances than feared in April.

VAT receipts in July were down by a third on the same month last year, corporation tax was down 37.9% and there was a 10% decline in income tax, capital gains tax and national insurance contributions.

Last month, government spending was 7.5% up on July 2008, leaving the Treasury with a deficit of 8bn, compared with a surplus of 5.2bn a year earlier. The City had been expecting July one of the four key months for tax collection to show a small surplus. In the first four months of the current financial year, the UK was in the red by 50bn a bigger shortfall than for the whole of 2007-08.

Stephen Lewis, economist with Monument Securities, described the first July deficit since 1996 as "a shocker" and said the deficit for 2009-10 as a whole was now likely to exceed Darling's 175bn budget forecast by "10bn or so".

Vicky Redwood, of Capital Economics, said the figures underlined the need for "sharp tax rises and/or government spending cuts in the next few years".

She added: "At this rate, borrowing looks set to overshoot vastly the chancellor's full-year forecast. We expect a figure of at least 200bn."

The Institute for Fiscal Studies said the deficit for the first four months of the year was a poor guide to the likely total for the whole of 2009-10. It said the end of the VAT holiday would boost revenues in the final three months of the year, although it was likely that the Treasury would be denied the full benefits of the 2.5 percentage point rise by consumers bringing forward spending to late this year.

Opposition parties seized on the figures to accuse the government of losing control of the public finances. The Liberal Democrat Treasury spokesman, Vince Cable, said: "As the country fights its way through recession we are seeing a collapse in tax revenues. We are now heading for a level of deficit this year even higher than the chancellor's original predictions.

"What is particularly concerning is that the government's hopes for the recovery of the public finances are based on extremely optimistic growth forecasts. Without this growth we will be heading for even higher levels of debt."

The Conservative shadow Treasury minister Mark Hoban said: "These appalling figures are even worse than the already dire expectations. Yet the government persists in the outright deception that there is no debt problem, and that it will increase spending after the next election. By denying the scale of the debt crisis ... Gordon Brown is putting our economic recovery at risk."

But there is hope.....

Just how thick are our so called leaders.

Since the release of Abdel Baset al-Megrahi on compassionate grounds several including, Gordon Brown, Alan Milburn and Alistair Darling, have been quoted as saying they are surprised and angered by the heroes welcome home he received, by the Libyan people.

As all terrorists are received with such open arm welcome (remember the IRA and Biggs early releases as just a couple of examples) why are they surprised, or are they!

Of course not (surely they can't be that dim, can they!). What they are trying to convince the electorate is that they are as shocked as what they hope us to be.

It matters not if al-Megrahi is innocent or not. He was found proven guilty and until/if such evidence comes to light to prove his innocence he should have remained in prison.

What next, Ian Brady of Moors Murder fame, or perhaps early release of those responsible for the Baby P murder being released due to compassionate grounds.

Once again we show ourselves to be the soft touch of the world. Johnny foreigner must be laughing his socks off.

Here we go again on some more government incompetency...

I loved the following comment at the end of the article, which was sent in by a Mail reader:

When its is public money 'Penalty Clauses' are hardly ever drawn up to secure a firm agreement. This is the same throughout the whole of the UK especially where County councils and Town Councils are concerned, they seem to run away with the money.

Hence when we come to larger areas of public expenditure it is no wonder they say," On average new equipment arrives five years behind schedule and costs 40 per cent more than first estimated". No wonder at all there is an alleged 35bn black hole in the budget,

There is no public accountability by this useless bunch of whinging spineless crooks currently controlling our useless proven 'Dysfunctional Government'. They are just a bunch of legitimized Robbers constantly making new Laws to Tax us all of every penny we have and then waste it.

This proves yet again, just how totally incompetent this Government is, does it not?

From http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/....

Secret report reveals MoD's 'lethal' 35bn defence black hole
By James Chapman
Last updated at 3:58 PM on 23rd August 2009

A devastating official report ministers tried to bury has identified a 35bn black hole in the budget for military equipment and 'lethal' failings in Government programmes.

The secret Ministry of Defence report concluded that soldiers' lives in Afghanistan were being put at risk by 'political fudge' and Whitehall incompetence.

The Tories accused the Government of a giant 'con trick' which involved pretending to have set aside money for new equipment but not actually doing so.

Behind schedule: The leaked report warns that naval ship-building delays are so severe that the UK could not fight a Falklands-style war.

They said governments in other countries had resigned for less and demanded immediate publication of the full report. Leaked details of the 296-page report, by former Labour defence adviser Bernard Gray, warned of failings so serious they 'harm our ability to conduct difficult current operations'.

Mr Gray, who led the strategic defence review of 1998 before becoming a successful businessman, found that:

*'The MoD equipment programme is 35bn over budget and cannot be afforded in the long-term.
*'On average new equipment arrives five years behind schedule and costs 40 per cent more than first estimated.
*'Shipbuilding delays are so severe that the UK could not fight a Falklands-style war.
*'How can it be that it takes 20 years to buy a ship, or aircraft, or tank?' Mr Gray wrote.
*'Why does it always seem to cost at least twice what was thought?
*'Even worse, at the end of the wait, why does it never quite seem to do what it was supposed to? The issue is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, shrouded in an acronym.
*'The problems, and the sums of money involved, have almost lost their power to shock, so endemic is the issue.

Inexcusable: Shadow defence secretary Liam Fox accused the Government of 'serial incompetence' for allowing defences to 'get to this state'.

It seems as though military equipment acquisition is vying in a technological race with the delivery of civilian software systems for the title of "world's most delayed technical solution". Even British trains cannot compete.'

The report warns that the MoD has a 'substantially overheated equipment programme, with too many types of equipment being ordered for too large a range of tasks at too high a specification'. It warns that enemies such as the Taliban were 'unlikely to wait for our sclerotic acquisition systems to catch up'.

Former Labour defence secretary John Hutton had pledged that the Gray report would be published before MPs left for their summer break last month. But Mr Hutton left the Government in June and was replaced by Bob Ainsworth.

Gordon Brown last month told MPs that the report would not be published, but would be incorporated into a Green Paper on defence next year. Mr Brown and Mr Ainsworth are accused of attempting to keep it under wraps amid acute political embarrassment over the issue of defence procurement. Ministers have been plunged into a damaging row with military chiefs over complaints of a lack of helicopter support and sufficiently armoured vehicles for British troops.

Shadow defence secretary Liam Fox told Sky News: 'It is serial incompetence by the Labour Government and the Ministry of Defence to allow our defences to get to this state. There is a catastrophic black hole, so much so that the defence budget is little more than a con-trick at the present time where the Government pretend that they have procured equipment for the future when they have never actually set aside the money to do so. This is a disastrous state of affairs - governments have resigned for less in other countries.'

Dr Fox said he had told US generals that a Conservative government would be 'much more sympathetic' than Mr Brown to requests for more soldiers, who would be deployed to speed up the training of an Afghan army that could control its own security.

Liberal Democrat defence spokesman Nick Harvey said: 'It beggars belief that the Government tried to keep this report hidden. It is essential to the success of our current and future operations abroad, and to the safety of our troops that Labour faces up to the procurement and spending shambles over which it has presided.

Face up: 'Gordon Brown cannot dodge the serious questions that are mounting about equipment in Afghanistan,' said SNP defence spokesman Angus Robertson
'This report must be published in full immediately, and we need a completely honest, fully informed review of defence spending and MoD projects. Only then can we begin to deal with the gaping black hole in the defence budget, and ensure that money is being spent exactly where it is needed, in pursuing sustainable and realistic projects that guarantee the provision of all necessary equipment and support for our troops on the front line.'

Angus Roberston, the SNP's leader in Westminster and the party's defence spokesman, said: 'Downing Street must immediately publish Bernard Gray's report in full. The suggestion that MoD procurement systems are actually harming operational ability is extremely grave. At a time when ministers faces fundamental questions about whether our forces in Afghanistan are getting the equipment they need it is absolutely unacceptable that this review is still being suppressed. Gordon Brown cannot dodge the serious questions that are mounting about equipment in Afghanistan. He is already exposed for saying there were enough helicopters only to have Bob Ainsworth contradict that claim by saying he was "busting a gut" to get more helicopters into theatre.'

A MoD spokesman said: 'The former Defence Secretary, John Hutton, commissioned a review on acquisition reform from Bernard Gray because we want to ensure that we are buying equipment as efficiently as possible. This report is currently in draft format and we are working hard with him on the issues he has identified. The work will feed into our recently announced Green Paper on defence. We are constantly improving the procurement process which has seen us deliver 10 billion of equipment to the front line over the last three years.

'The Government will be publishing the report in due course.'

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