Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

From TheSun.co.uk

Cash outrage
NICK PARKER

HATE cleric Anjem Choudary nets 25,000 a year in benefits - 8,000 MORE than
the take-home pay of soldiers fighting in Afghanistan, The Sun can reveal.

The Muslim extremist's handouts are not taxed, making his income equivalent to
a 32,500 salary.

The revelation came amid mounting fury over bile-spouting Choudary's plan for
a parade by Muslim hard-liners through repatriation town Wootton Bassett.

He has also likened British soldiers to Nazi stormtroopers.

State handout figures leaked to The Sun show Choudary, 42, gets 15,600 a year
in housing benefit - to live in a 320,000 house in Leytonstone, East
London.

The cleric is also given a 1,820 council tax allowance, 5,200 in income
support and 3,120 in child benefits. That's a total of 25,740.

By contrast, a private fighting the Taliban in the Afghan badlands is paid a
basic 16,680 - or 13,430 after tax.

He also gets a 2,380 bonus for serving on the frontline and a 1,194
"separation allowance" for being away from home.

That makes total take-home earnings of 17,004.

We should pay the taliban to fight for the British. It would be a lot cheaper and a lot easier.

Tongue in cheek, I wouldn't totally believe what is written inThe Sun, however even if the tw..t only got half as much in handouts we really our the mugs of the world to allow this. Well said Aussie Pm, the British people live in forlorn hope of a leader to have the guts to endorse every word.

Stable,

Saw that article when it first came out. Thought how brilliant it was. Of course the civil liberty group would be outraged if it was proposed here.
Read a letter a few days ago (think it was in the Daily Telegraph) that said, all those who feel that we should except all immigrants should have to take one in as a lodger. Don't think many would except that invitation.

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mnamreh - Are you Fred in disguise?

stable - 07 Jan 2010 17:54 - 8002 of 8010

Stable ,,i can imagine Maggie Thatcher standing up like that ,unfortunately we have a bunch of spineless pricks in govenment.....

Now that global warming has resulted in conditions suitable for penguins to live in the wild around our shores I thought that I would pass on an interesting fact about these birds.
Do you ever wonder why you never see dead penguins on the ice? What happens to them? Penguins are a very ritualistic bird living very ordered complex lives. They have a strong community bond and mate for life maintaining links with parents, offspring siblings etc. When a penguin dies on shore other penguins will struggle to dig a shallow hole beside the body and roll the dead bird into it. Then they gather around (tears have been noted) and start their mourning call which sounds remarkably like: Freeze a jolly good fellow

Damm clever birds This_is_me.have you seen Happy Feet?when they need a shallow grave filled he turns on his tap shoes

TIM< Are you confusing the penguins with the present tory party.









Forgot, the latter are stuffed penguins!

8-)

It was colder in Manchester yesterday than Antartica so the penguins were trying out the new motorway - the Manchester ship canal. All you need to get to Wigan faster than by car is a pair of skates!

Senior citizens are the nation's leading carriers of AIDS!


hearing aids

band aids

roll aids

walking aids

medical aids

government aids

most of all,

monetary aid to their children!

And talking of 'Aids' and 'Old People', I read this very sad and shocking story in my local newspaper. It beggars belief that this sort of situation is still going on in our society and it did make me think quite a bit. I did think our Councils and their enormous budgets and staff had got it more than covered.

'How could this have happened?'

Published Date: 09 January 2010
By Liz Lee
Northampton Chronicle Reporter

AN elderly couple found dead in their Northampton home were left to die in cold and squalor as a result of a failure in local authority services, their caring neighbours have claimed.

Jean and Derek Randall, both believed to be in their mid-70s, were discovered dead when police forced their way into the home the couple shared at an address in Kingsthorpe, on Thursday.

It is feared they may have been there for as long as five days before being found, despite desperate attempts by their neighbours to make contact.

Mrs Randall was confined to a wheelchair and her husband was her sole carer. It is not known how, or when, either of the couple died but police have confirmed there are no suspicious circumstances.

Neighbour Heather Footitt, who had been visiting the couple daily to deliver food and check on them, said Mr Randall's health had deteriorated in the past month. She said she had spent weeks contacting Age Concern, Northamptonshire County Council and health services trying to get the couple into a home.

She said: "I last spoke to him on Saturday, when I went round because he had asked me to bring him jelly and ice cream. Since then I have been ringing them five or six times a day. Their bathroom light came on each night so we thought they must be all right, but we've since found out it was on a timer. I am furious this has been allowed to happen and I even predicted it would.

"Jean could not do anything for herself at all, and Derek got to the point where he simply could not cope with lifting her, doing her washing or anything.

"When I spoke to him before Christmas, he said he might be able to cope if Jean was taken into a home so we contacted everyone we could possibly think of to come out and get their needs assessed, but nobody came."

Mrs Footitt contacted Labour MP for Northampton North, Sally Keeble, a few days before Christmas stating the situation with the Randalls had become very desperate. Mrs Keeble's office immediately contacted Northamptonshire County Council as a matter of urgency, but a reply was not received from the authority until the beginning of January.

Meanwhile Mrs Footitt contacted Age Concern asking for their help, but was unsuccessful. She said: "We got absolutely nowhere. I was so frustrated, I even said it would end up in us finding them dead. You could see what state their house was in, and the cold could not have helped at all, but no-one did anything."

Mrs Footitt's brother Ian Walters, who also helped care for the Randalls, said: "It is disgusting that it came to this. I believe they died because everyone who is supposed to care for the elderly in our society did not do it.

"Everyone passed the buck," he added.

Care campaigner calls for a review

Northampton Chron & Echo
Published Date: 09 January 2010
By Unknown

A disability rights campaigner has called for Northamptonshire County Council to review its care home policy following the deaths of Derek and Jean Randall.

Chris Kinsey, a carer who has campaigned against the closure of respite homes in the county for several years, said the case highlighted the need for some elderly people to have urgent access to qualified support.

She said: "This is extremely sad news, but unfortunately it was bound to happen. I fear it is likely to happen more and more often if the council insists on closing more care homes. It just proves that you cannot have a one-size fits all policy, and not everyone is suited to a do-it-yourself care system. Some people simply will not be in a position to care for their loved ones without help. Yes, it is fantastic to have options, and to be able to stay at home, but clearly it is not suitable for everyone."

She added: "What is so sad here is that this seems not to be a case of society turning its back, but of authorities no longer viewing disabled and elderly people as a priority."

Hmmm?

Perhaps it would have been better for them if Jean and Derek Randall had been members of some Islamic religion, thereby being more on the way to getting themselves recategorised as 'Islamic Immigrants'? Loudly and clearly, I keep reading how it is this category of society, who are consistently getting tons and tons of the benefits that get dished out.

since this is the talk to myself thread i expect no answer. the latest post on the Lloy thread disgusts me so i have posted another
regards
jkd

seems we have a bit of conflict on the Lloy thread.having posted the above post which originaly ended with the words "disgusts me" i then felt it only right and proper to express my feelings and go over to the Lloy thread and say so. which i did, i then came back here and added the latter part of my above post. i should of course have added it as an edit.have now been caught with my pants down and am the villain. what a weird world.
regards
jkd
edit lets not forget or overlook the cause and reason for my original post.it is that that matters, not my villainy.

Surely, what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas?

The ban for Al-Muhajiroun and Islam4UK comes after the announcement of a peaceful procession in Wootton Bassett to highlight the atrocities which have been and are being committed by the British regime supposedly within the framework of freedom of expression. However, what is clear is that if you differ with the Brown regime and those who advocate freedom and democracy and whose citizens are supposedly dying for these ideals abroad, then freedom quickly dissipates to be replaced by dictatorship.

Moneyam respectfully request you nip this one in the bud right now!

C.c. are you trying to censor discussion?

Why?

Get a grip Fred!