Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

As you know Greekman I do not believe in Waronly self defenceand when completely necessarynobody has the last say!!! I did have a Gorilla pick on me at schoolhe knocked the crap out of mebut I hurt him in the processfrom then on I told him that if he bullied anyone elsehe would have to knock the crap out of me againhe didnt!most modern day WarsI believehave rather different motives than portrayed by the Politicianslike I said just my opinion

Whatever happened to Alan anyone ?? never see him posting on here now.

Tabasco,

You say, "WarsI believehave rather different motives than portrayed by the Politicianslike I said just my opinion".

Couldn't agree more. I wonder if the day will ever come when a Politician gets up and says something along the lines of, 'We are going to bomb the b******s before they bomb us, or/and it's all about oil, stupid'.

Centuries ago most wars were over water, now they are over oil.

Jimmy, Alan has been looking after exotic animals these days.
http://www.morleyobserver.co.uk/district-news/Vinnie-the-orphan-meerkat-dies.6014851.jp

It looks like a full time job for Alan and Heather!

Well well ,he's even got a scorpian . Cheers for the info Kim.

No problem. Maybe he will take in Tony Blair later! :o)

I wouldnt really call him exotic Kim ,a prick yes ,exotic no.

Sorry Jimmy, mixing up quixotic with exotic! :oD

Kim,

The description fits Tony (teflon) Blair better than the meerkat,

He won the hearts of everyone in Morley (West Yorks) with his exploits, his bright inquisitive eyes and little chirrups. Being very tame (tamed by peter Mandelson), he was taken on school visits and to meet the residents of local care homes.

Although I do find meerkats more endearing than TB. Perhaps in the future they hopefully will become extinct, not meerkats obviously.

Greek.

Lol Greek!

How do you tell the difference between a UK Police Officer, an Australian Police Officer and an American Police Officer?

By posing the following question:

Scenario Question:

You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, raises the knife, and charges. You are carrying a Glock .40, and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family. What do you do?

Scenario answer from a UK Police Officer:

Well, that's not really enough information to answer the question! Does the man look poor or oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack? Could we run away? What does my wife think? What about the kids? Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand? What does the law say about this situation? Does the Glock have appropriate safety built into it? Why am I carrying a loaded gun anyway and what kind of message does this send to society and to my children? Is it possible he would be happy with just killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me or would he be content just to wound me? If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me? Should I call 9-9-9? Why is this street so deserted? We need to raise taxes, have a paint and weed day and make this a happier, healthier street that would discourage such behaviour. If I raise my gun and he turns and runs away, do I get blamed when he falls over running away, knocks his head and kills himself? If I shoot him, and lose the court case does his family have the opportunity to sue me, cost me my job, my credibility, and will I lose my family home?


Scenario answer from an Australian Police Officer:

BANG !


Scenario answer from an American Police Officer:

BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click... (sounds of reloading) BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click.
Daughter: "Nice grouping dad, were those the Winchester Silver Tips?"


"Political Correctness" is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." So there !

And if he was drunk, stupid, shouting for his lost dog and didn't understand you, but was carrying a wooden table leg wrapped in brown paper, which you had confused for a gun would you consider the Austalian or American's action justified?

For some life is so simple.

This_is_mewas I Metropolitan police?could be a different answer?beat me to it Fred

I remember when a migrant worker from Lithuania whos severed head and hands were found on a Scottish beechthe Police stated that they were treating the discovery as suspiciousloljust a guessbut I dont think it was natural causesand she wouldnt be needing Injury Lawyers for you!!what a World we live in

And not so good if you are a Brazilian plumber

This_ is_ me, I think you have watched too many Clint Eastwood films.

He thinks Dirty Harry is a porno star!

This is me,

As a retired Police Officer, I find your post very funny, but depressingly with a ring of truth.
During the end of my career I had many a run in with senior officers due to the fact, that myself and my section were very rarely allowed to use common sense.
Often a situation was calming down and starting to run smoothly when a senior officer would turn up and it would then go back down hill.

Must though take Fred1new to task. As a Trained Firearms officer I have been in a few situations were instant on the spot life and death decisions had to be made.
I would defy anyone given a possible genuine firearms incident to identify a firearm from most replicas. Even in a classroom, if someone pulled out a replica and pointed it directly at you, most would not be able within a split second to differentiate between the replica and a real firearm, and a slit second is all you get. In the cold light of day (in good daylight) a chair leg is easily identified. In the dark even a chair leg wrapped in brown paper, especially if pointed toward you could easily be mistake for a shotgun.

As for Jean Charles de Menezes (the Brazilian Plumber), obviously an almighty cock-up, but by the commanders not the Firearms Officers. If I had been given the info they received I would have done exactly as they did. If you think a person is an armed terrorist, possibly wired you just cant take a chance.
These officers will have to live with what they did.

Not having a go, but as someone who has been in such a position feel I am well qualified to give a point of view, I must admit that it does get to me when those who have not criticise those who do the job (as said but worth repeating, it was a cock-up).

In summing up. The Police Service (not allowed to call it a force now) is
in an almighty mess mainly due to it's chiefs/politicians and health and safety. For all of my service I took as little notice of all three as I could get away with.
Due to this I almost had my own chair in D+C (Discipline and Complaints).

Well said Greekman! I agree totally. Would imagine 'The Ways And Means Act' consigned to history now, pity cause it was just the application of common sense, an attribute senior officers (especially the Brams Hill Dickheads) completely lacked and as a consequence made situations worse.

The Brazilian plumber was in the country illegally, a fact most people overlook. If he had left when his visa expired he would still be fixing pipes today

Seems like a reasonable punishment.