Velocity
- 20 Jan 2005 21:49
I suspect trading tomorrow will probably answer this conundrum, but I know there are some far wiser owls than me that contribute to this bb & I would be interested in their opinions.
My question is this: the chart below looks to me like a pullback of the uptrend (ie when it went north through 14.00) however I am unsure as it has now broken down through 14.00 whether this is trending up or down :-(
So what do you think - up or down, or should I just flip a coin :-)) ?
Balerboy
- 24 Jul 2014 08:25
- 808 of 960
nearly back in the money ..... keep going!!!
HARRYCAT
- 04 Aug 2014 13:00
- 809 of 960
Panmure note:
"Interims results were above consensus on better than expected performance fees and inflows. Adjusted PBT rose to $148m (+10%) which was 10% above consensus. Investment performance was mixed with AHL doing better (+9% in the half) but other areas like equities disappointed. The outlook statement is cautious. The shares have rallied strongly recently and trade on 16x this year’s consensus. Given that and the lack of visibility we are reducing our recommendation to a Hold (from Buy).
For the first 6 months of 2014 adjusted PBT was $148m ($134m) versus consensus of $127m, EPS 7.1c (5.7c) versus consensus of 6c, DPS 4.0c (2.6c). Revenues totalled $452m ($568m) split between $404m management fees and $107m performance fees. Group AUM increased to $57.7bn (March $55.0bn, December 2013 $54.1bn) a little better than consensus. There were positive net inflows of $2.8bn (H13 outflows $5.0bn). On investment performance in H1: AHL Diversified +8.7% which is an improvement on the -3.1% in FY13, GLG multi-strategy -1.9% (versus +5.1% in FY13), FRM Diversified II +1.4% (FY13 +7%), and Japan CoreAlpha -1.4% (FY13 +65%) where they have $10bn in AUM. Man had surplus regulatory capital of $625m before the $345m required for acquisitions.
The outlook statement is cautious on the back of “mixed investment performance” in H1 – below expected in equities and macro but good in AHL. For FY14 the current consensus PBT is $251m with EPS of 11.9c. The Numeric acquisition (AUM up to $14.7bn) completes in Q314 and could be around 10% accretive on an annual basis.
The shares have been outperformers recently bouncing from 100p (although they sold off heavily yesterday), linked to the better results from AHL which remains a key earnings driver. They are now trading on 16x this year’s consensus and yield 4.6% on the basis of a prospective ordinary dividend on a consensus basis of 8.8c. Man bought back $115m in shares at an average price of 99.7p and says that surplus cash will be used for further buybacks and dividends.
Given the rally in the shares and lack of visibility on earnings we are reducing our recommendation to Hold (from Buy)."
HARRYCAT
- 13 Aug 2014 18:11
- 810 of 960
TAKEOVER" The Company has announced that it has entered into a conditional agreement to acquire Numeric Holdings LLC. Subject to the satisfaction of certain conditions, it is currently expected that completion of the acquisition of Numeric will occur in September 2014. Under the terms of the Acquisition, Man Group plc will pay approximately USD219 Million in cash at completion. Owing to its size, the Acquisition constitutes a Class 1 transaction for the purposes of the Listing Rules and therefore requires the approval of Shareholders. The Man General Meeting is to be held on 5 September 2014. Relative Details and Dates: 5 September 2014 - General Meeting, September 2014 - Expected Completion of Acquisition. Further information may follow in due course. "
HARRYCAT
- 05 Sep 2014 18:12
- 811 of 960
StockMarketWire.com
Man Group has completed its acquisition of Numeric Holdings after shareholders approved the deal this morning.
Chief executive Manny Roman said: "We are delighted to announce the completion of the acquisition of Numeric, which has an impressive track record of performance, a strong US footprint and a talented management team. Numeric is very well positioned to benefit significantly from our scale and resources and I'm excited by the opportunities this acquisition brings for our investors and shareholders."
HARRYCAT
- 09 Oct 2014 12:00
- 812 of 960
Panmure Gordon comment today:
"AHL funds are returning much better investment performances this year than has been the case for several years which have been distorted by quantitative easing. Assuming that markets are gradually normalising we anticipate higher performance fees. AHL funds are delivering double digit returns and are exceeding their high water marks. Man has also acquired another $15.7bn (pro-forma) AUM, principally in
Numeric (completed in September), which is a significant addition to its quant offering.
We estimate performance fees for FY14 of $240m, implying $140m in the second half on top of the £101m in H1, versus $180m previously. Consensus currently is around $200m. On the back of this, we have revised our earnings estimates as follows: FY14 EPS 15.2c (from 14.0c) +9%, FY15 17.0c (from 14.5c) +17%, and FY16 18.0c (from 15c) +20%. We are now above the consensus EPS of 12c for FY14 and 15c for FY15.
The shares are trading on 10.9x FY15 December revised EPS and yield 4.6%.
We have lifted our price target to 145p from 125p previously to reflect the higher earnings and improved outlook for AHL. We have upgraded our recommendation to a Buy from Hold. They are due to report Q3 IMS on 16th October."
HARRYCAT
- 20 Oct 2014 08:25
- 813 of 960
Liberum note last week:
"Man appear to be firmly on the road to recovery. We downgraded core EPS forecasts post the interim’s due to very cautious statements from management re. the outlook for inflows in H2’14, and also revenue margin pressure. Today’s statement shows better than expected performance re. inflows but post the analyst call we think the outlook for margins is probably a little softer still.
Net inflows for the quarter were better than feared at $0.4bn. When added to the $2.8bn of net inflows at the half year this takes the total for the 9M’14 to $3.2bn, which compares very favorably to our forecast of just $0.7bn for the full year. Inflows of $1bn from an Asia Pacific based institution into AHL helped to offset outflows at GLG.
Post the interim’s we downgraded the blended revenue margin from 1.50% to 1.40% in ’14, falling further to 1.25% in ’15 and 1.18% in ’16. This was in large part driven by a softening in management fees within Alternative Quant funds (AHL). In 2013 the margin was 2.83% and at H1’14 it fell to 2.39%. We had been forecasting a reduction to 2.33% for the full year, reducing further to 2.00% in ’15 and 1.80% in ’16. Management stated on the conference call that institutional mandates were priced at 1-2% and for larger mandates, like the Asia-Pac one referred to above this could be closer to 1%. Consequently, we think there is probably further margin pressure relative to our existing forecasts.
Following a $150m debt issuance on 16th Sept’14 (5.875%), the regulatory capital surplus now stands at $450m, before a planned for seeding programme of $75m. We expect performance fees to be used for further share buybacks.
Understandably, this appears to be a management team at pains to manage expectations well. Net inflow performance is ahead of expectations and while the outlook statement says it is mixed, we certainly anticipate a beat relative to our existing expectations. Conversely, revenue margin looks like it could be under a little more pressure. At this stage we think the net impact could be broadly neutral to our existing forecasts for Core EPS of 7.2 cents in ’14, rising to 8.5 cents in ’15. This leaves the stock trading on a Core PE of 24.7x, falling to 21.0x and yielding 4.0% rising to 4.8%. We maintain our TP of 120p."
HARRYCAT
- 04 Nov 2014 14:31
- 814 of 960
Hedge Funds seem to be back in fashion!
HARRYCAT
- 25 Nov 2014 08:51
- 815 of 960

Approaching 3 year high.
Balerboy
- 25 Nov 2014 09:09
- 816 of 960
Nice to be on the right side of sp for a change.,.
skinny
- 25 Nov 2014 09:20
- 817 of 960
Blimey - I haven't looked at these for a while - well done if you've held.
HARRYCAT
- 08 Dec 2014 14:23
- 818 of 960
150p reached. A little bit overbought, maybe?
Chris Carson
- 09 Dec 2014 16:28
- 820 of 960
Long on the spreads @ 149.69 tight stop.
Chris Carson
- 09 Dec 2014 16:29
- 821 of 960
Edit to post 819 should read overbought not oversold Dohhhh!
Chris Carson
- 09 Dec 2014 16:40
- 822 of 960
HARRYCAT
- 09 Dec 2014 16:55
- 823 of 960
If it retraces any opinion of support level? Maybe 120p/125p?
Balerboy
- 09 Dec 2014 18:00
- 825 of 960
negative vibes......... just having a rest before next move up.,.
HARRYCAT
- 17 Dec 2014 08:04
- 826 of 960
StockMarketWire.com
Man Group has entered into a conditional agreement to acquire Silvermine Capital Management, a Connecticut-based leveraged loan manager with $3.8bn of funds under management across nine active collateralised loan obligation structures as of 30 November.
The acquisition is expected to complete in the first quarter of 2015, subject to certain approvals being obtained. Silvermine is wholly-owned by the firm's founders and senior staff members and is based in Stamford, Connecticut.
The team of 17 focuses exclusively on managing US levered credit portfolios and, since inception in 2005, has executed 16 separate transactions totalling $6.7bn. Upon completion of the acquisition, Silvermine will be integrated into Man GLG and will operate under the Man GLG Silvermine name which will complement Man GLG's existing credit business.
Silvermine's team will remain in place under the leadership of two of the firm's founders, G. Steven Kalin and Richard F. Kurth, who will continue to work alongside the other co-founders Aaron Meyer and Jonathan Marks.
rekirkham
- 17 Dec 2014 08:20
- 827 of 960
They seem to be trying to grow the business by acquisition of other businesses.
Not so much internal growth, only cost savings. / cut backs. Are they going to be affected by changes to pension drawdown after 4 April - could be some large net outflows.
I like Investment Companies generally but not sure this is the right time to buy into them - perhaps best to wait a long time for a better global situation.