Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Maggie ,i used to have dreams about her ,must be the powerful woman thing..

Greek,

You haven't offended me and I hope I haven't offended you. If I did so, it was unintentional.

I can't agree with your choice of political party, but as you are a reasonable man, I can at the very least attempt to challenge the reasons for doing so, and lead along the right path. 8-)

I am not a member of the labour, or any other party, but I do respect G Browns intellect and many of many of the attempts at "social changes" he has attempted to make in this country and the World in general.

Change is difficult.

Personally, I think he is as honest as a politician can be, and as is obvious I agree with a lot of what he is attempting to do.

When he proposed QE, I thought it was sensible, as it has turned out to be.

Not to have done so would have been a catastrophe for many of poorer members of the population, mainly those unable to fend for themselves. I think the tories would not have done it, until much later and prepared to accept the hardships of the others.

At that time there was "howling and feeble snarling by the usual pack.

When I condemned Israel for their actions in Gaza for using Phosphorus Bombs and other humanitarian crimes, I was referred to, as less than compos mentis.

I was critical of many Palestinian actions. Ie. I thought both side had fault, but their actions were not helping.

Again the pack got together and were again abusive.

I must admit I enjoy being the Devils advocate and the abuse was fairly feeble, but aimed at the messenger rather than the message. Pitiful really!

I hope to continue in my chosen role.

Have a good day to-morrow!

Jimmy,

You were lucky, others had nightmares.

It wasnt about politics Fred ,,,can't believe i just admitted that.

It was about the power with Maggie wasn't it?!

Fred:You're paranoid. There is no pack. That is just absurd. You're not that important.

Kim ,,it was ,,,sad as it might seem i had dreams of her shouting me down , thats all i'm saying ,i dont want to take this any further.

Fred1,

I never took offence as I never felt any intended.

MightyMicro,

I took it that The Pack was referring to the pack against Gordon Brown.
When it comes to Politics all sides have their packs, hangers on, wimps, liars etc with a very thin smattering of those who are genuine trying to do their best for the country and not themselves.

Greekyou guessed wrongFred is talking about the pack that I call the Groovy Gang professionally paid to slag a stock and drive down the priceI very rarely use their BB nameas I believe the bashers are paid every time its mentioned then no wonder they get frustrated with mehopefully they are not getting paid a pennybut it is amusing to see the concern they show for us investorssome sit eight hours on a keyboard talking about a stock they dont even ownjust to convince othersit is best to sell.I think Fred has a good written piece about themI also havebut probably filed it under duck lamb boeufsorry I meant Beauf!!!!

Tabasco,

Like you I believe that there are share rampers/de-rampers out there. You often see the same names on double figure threads ramping/de-ramping every share they can.
I don't think they are paid, although there has been the odd hint some are, I feel they just want to talk the sp up/down for their own ends.
There is one on MoneyAm (no names, no pack drill, but we all know these posters) who on my last count about a year ago was posting on at least 15 threads, always bashing the sp, usually without much in the way of back-up augment, views, opinions. He still posts but he has been on my squelch list for a couple of years, so I never see the drivel he writes.

I have little problem with these posters as they are so obvious.

I would sooner read a view well argued that does not agree with mine, than an agreeing view with comments such as, Buy/Sell now, this will Zoom/Bomb and the like.

Hasn't it gone quiet?

Tabby frightened them all off.

A bit like the H.of P.

I find it strange how the Inland Revenue are prepared to investigate false declaration of Cash payments for small business, solicitors, Barristers medics etc. for up to 18years and yet they seem loathed to show interest in MP's expense / income claims.

Sometimes I think there is something wrong in out system.

The crazy gang will slag anything off for nowt.

Attempting to reduce to their own level.

Fred1,

Re MP's expenses and The Inland Revenue, it is a case of, 'He who pays the Piper, calls the tune'.

Many a truth in old sayings.

Still waiting to see how many MPs are going to be prosecuted. Not holding my breath as expecting the CPS to state that prosecutions are, 'Not in the public interest'.

I do hope the electorate savage any presently standing MP who has been dipping his fingers in the trough and stands for re-election at the next election.

I am intrigued to see the list of MPS, who have been using the HP for entertainment purposes, and the association between their directorships, donations and other "rewards".

But, what intrigues me, what was the necessity for Ms Follett to have 6 phone lines on one premise unless you are running a business.

I suppose one phone could be for private use, one for overseas government business, one for private use, one for FAX. and another for direct communication to government.

Don't know, but would like to.

sorry fred, nodded off.....are you still at it....snorrrrrr

Balerboy, with a "snorrrrr" like that you must be in line for the trough,


I am interested to know who is in front of you in the queue?

Tories distorting crimes figures?

I don't believe it


Is Christopher Stephen "Chris" Grayling the new Goebbels of Politics.

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Time to move on from the MP expenses. so I told by the McKays, B Jenkins Nick Winterton etc Mainly Tories seem to wish to leave their actions behind.

Move on, Move on .there are other troughs.

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If at any time I am stop by the police for anything. I will say I want to move on.

What are my chances?

Don't answer that!

Fred they are all as bad as each other , its just that Labour is badder.

Jimmyjust the way I would have said it

I can give many situations, backed up by specific examples of how Crime Statistics were being fiddled, in both the Conservative and Labour governments over the last 20 years. Retired for 6 year so can't prove this since 2003, but I doubt it's changed. Don't want to post these example if no one is interested, so will wait and see.

Re MP's expenses, with the amounts claimed for as expenses (many far north of the average wage for Joe Public) it makes you wonder what they use their actual salary for.
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