Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Awww Dont get me going about Judges. l think a prerequisite of that job is senility subtly blended with utter and total stupidity, arrogance and aloofness . l personally know of an individual who was sent to jail for 28 days for failing to return a library book ( which under common law constitutes theft ) yet the same judge handed out suspended sentances to a group of individuals involved in mutli million fraud . And he was a Recorder of a major province-..at best the judiciary is arbitrary and random .At worst ... l dare not say...........

Thanks TFC,

I do like your definition of a judge (senility subtly blended with utter and total stupidity, arrogance and aloofness).

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mnamreh,

I fully agree. I have been before many Judges (never as a defendant, I hasten to add) both good and bad.
My feelings on most trials is such a magnitude of 'none evidence' is allowed.

Take the present case of Radovan Karadzic and the past trial of Slobodan Miloević, how can these trials justify their length. Well over 90% of so called evidence given should not be allowed. Surely there is sufficient evidence that can be heard or refuted within months to either convict or not.
I have often been in court when the evidence presented could be cut by well over 75%, especially in serious cases. Who cares if the defendant went to grammar school or comprehensive, lived in a terrace house or detached or once was cautioned by Police for breaking a window. These are the stupid questions allowed in trials such as murder/rape. What does it matter, it is irrelevant. It is just a game between lawyers/barristers and the rest of the legal paraphernalia.
Most juries could easily make their minds up within the first few days (and most of them do) whether the defendant committed the crime or not.
The problem judges have is that if they don't allow almost anything, they leave themselves open to criticism and a re-trial.

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Where are you from?

By the sound of it -somewhere sensible .Somewhere where political correctness has not strangled freedom of speech . . The UK is a tiny northern europeon lsland with limited resources and unlimited debt; and, in short, can ill afford the crazy numbers of asylum seekers bent on exploiting the entire housing/ healthcare/ benefits system .For a start how many cannot even speak the most basic of English ? ..How many have criminal records ?How many come from countries were life is cheap and whose social mores clash violently with the host country ? But whats the point in whining now ? The damage was done a generation ago by mainstream political parties of all shades ; so much so that a Trojan horse sits in most cities and towns of the UK .Social engineering ,via the popular media, has totally manipulated public opinion So much so that even blacks.lndians and Pakistanies actually perceive themselves as English and complain themselves about the level of immigration. Recently in some armpit of the UK the Pakistani community took to the streets complaining about the number of Armenians that were being allowed into the UK on the grounds that their women were being harrassed by said Armenians .........................the time has come for alternating tory/labour administrations to end . Neither has proven worthy and both responsible for this so called " multi racial state - which very few of the ordinary people want.

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TFC,

Living in such a beautiful part of France I find it strange to hold on to ideas belonging to the Mosely Brownshirts in the thirties, BNP and seemingly some of UKIP now.

Perhaps, you are influenced by Jean-Marie Le Pen and his Right wing party, but I thought the French had rejected his odd ideas.

Anyway you got something right.

I spent many months a year for 4 years in and around Domme, Sarlat and St Cyprien.

I was hoping to live there, but as an "ranger" think it wiser not to.
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Fred - I can hear the huge sigh of relief reverberating from accross the Channel as we speak! :o))

This has little to do with racism, Fascism, BNP and the like, they are in the minority, but as matters escalate things will get worse.
The problem we have is that our islands are vastly overcrowded. We have about the same population as France with half the land size.
And remember, feelings regarding immigration are also running high in that country, I wonder how much that would escalate if they had the same overcrowding problem as the UK.
My solution would be to stop ALL immigration unless it would benefit this country, and that is immigration from all countries.
As to Islam, I read an excellent article a few months ago with a title that I can not recall, but it was mainly stating facts, one of these was that if the rate of Muslim and other so called minority groups births in this country continued at it's present rate and the white British birth rate continued to decline at the present rate, by 2035 the white British population would become the minority.

One Muslim official, was quoted as saying something along the lines of, 'We don't need to use violence in the UK for Islam to take over, we can do it through having many children'.

If anyone doubts this, go onto the governments census site and look at the breakdown of births.

If this country was a lifeboat, we would be sinking rapidly. Population control is now recognised as one of the biggest threat to the UK and the world, even by the (if you say anything you are racist) government.
Too little, too late.

When push comes to shove we all fight our corner, we and the country can only take so much.

I thought I was writing.


Ah Well!

Morning Fred,

Sorry but I don't understand your comment (I thought I was writing).

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I read that article as well, quite scary really. I would also like to see immigration strictly limited to those who will be of benefit to the UK. One of the problems in the UK is the dwindling british birth rate and the growing numbers of pensioners. (I know my next paragraph contradicts this sentence but---) It also appears that many babies are born into a culture of state dependency, I would like to see Family Allowance paid for the first two children only, if a family or single mums want additional children then they must be prepared to fund them, and not rely on the state. It's a tricky situation.
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Hi George,

You say, "I would like to see Family Allowance paid for the first two children only, if a family or single mums want additional children then they must be prepared to fund them, and not rely on the state".
This has been one of my strongest views for years.
We continually read of families consisting of 5/6 plus children, with many running into double figures. Whilst we continue to support such large families with cash, benefits and housing (some housing costs are well into 100.000 per year as a certain case was publicised only a week ago, an immigrant with no independent financial means of support) it will only encourage more to breed like rabbits. We pay for these spongers/parasites, and by that I mainly mean those who come over here and expect to be kept. Although often those born here expect the same.
Just think of that when the tax demand is requested.

I think it was David Attenborough who when asked what he considered to be the biggest threat to the world, he stated Population being by far the biggest threat.

I and most other people would agree.

We just can't continue as we are. If we do I think we are heading for a true Armageddon, and for those who feel that is a too strong a word please tell me an alternative scenario.

Wonderful article, Niceonecyril on immigration and asylum !....bravo !...funny and true !.

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greekman---it's a tricky situation because on one hand we're advocating smaller birth numbers (assuming the number of state dependency children falls) and on the other hand we need more youngsters in work to help sustain the pensioners. Incidently I have two adult working daughters, when they were born we didn't get family allowance for the first born (When you needed it most), only for the second.
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mnamreh------Does the word 'Scapegoat' mean anything to anyone? In relation to what?
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