Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

FredI dont give a stuff where you lock them upI personally want them charged for their crimes. reform to them would be hard punishmentjust get them off the streetsand let our children feel safethese young gangsters need to understand there will be no winners with violence good post BTW 8557

Greek,

A short sharp shock taught me to be more careful not to get caught again! 8-)

It is easy to pontificate or theorise than to provide the resources, financing and legislation to do so is the difficulty.

Taking the electorate with you, against a battering of "reducing my taxes and tax avoidance" to implement the necessary regimes is the problem.

During my little journey I have met many solicitors, probation officers, social workers, psychotherapists, psychoanalysts, police and other "caring" professionals.

Some seemed very young and lacking a little "worldliness", often a decent standard of education, or training.

Some were well intended, but less than proficient. Some manifested their own undealt with problems and prejudices.

A few were over paid, but many grossly underpaid for the responsibility they were undertaking.

Sometime, or other, society has to recognise its responsibility to pay a reasonable rate for the work being undertaken.

The "professionals" also have to fulfil their responsibilities by raising their standards and not just opting for the quiet life. That means sticking their necks out a bit more when they witness poor standards of work.

We are becoming the get away with it society.

Fred,

For some reason I can't see/view your post of 1814 hrs, and you definitely are not on my ignore list. MoneyAm problms!

Greek,

A short sharp shock taught me to be more careful not to get caught again! 8-)

It is easy to pontificate or theorise than to provide the resources, financing and legislation to do so is the difficulty.

Taking the electorate with you, against a battering of "reducing my taxes and tax avoidance" to implement the necessary regimes is the problem.

During my little journey I have met many solicitors, probation officers, social workers, psychotherapists, psychoanalysts, police and other "caring" professionals.

Some seemed very young and lacking a little "worldliness", often a decent standard of education, or training.

Some were well intended, but less than proficient. Some manifested their own undealt with problems and prejudices.

A few were over paid, but many grossly underpaid for the responsibility they were undertaking.

Sometime, or other, society has to recognise its responsibility to pay a reasonable rate for the work being undertaken.

The "professionals" also have to fulfil their responsibilities by raising their standards and not just opting for the quiet life. That means sticking their necks out a bit more when they witness poor standards of work.

We are becoming the get away with it society.

Greek,

A short sharp shock taught me to be more careful not to get caught again! 8-)

It is easy to pontificate or theorise than to provide the resources, financing and legislation to do so is the difficulty.

Taking the electorate with you, against a battering of "reducing my taxes and tax avoidance" to implement the necessary regimes is the problem.

During my little journey I have met many solicitors, probation officers, social workers, psychotherapists, psychoanalysts, police and other "caring" professionals.

Some seemed very young and lacking a little "worldliness", often a decent standard of education, or training.

Some were well intended, but less than proficient. Some manifested their own undealt with problems and prejudices.

A few were over paid, but many grossly underpaid for the responsibility they were undertaking.

Sometime, or other, society has to recognise its responsibility to pay a reasonable rate for the work being undertaken.

The "professionals" also have to fulfil their responsibilities by raising their standards and not just opting for the quiet life. That means sticking their necks out a bit more when they witness poor standards of work.

We are becoming the get away with it society.

.

Greek. I haven't a clue what is going on.

It seems as if the thread or my typing is on Crack or something.

CC, you're quite right of course, and I have no doubt many such areas exist. Yes I would try to do something about them and yes it might partly be in the nature of the short, sharp, shock. However, the rules for crime and punishment are very ingrained and it would take great political power to fix things particularly given how bad they have let them slip.

And anyway, the short, sharp, shock is not enough. Major contributory factors are the benefits system and the breakdown of the family unit but those are other stories, perhaps for an evening on which the BB software works.

If the benefit system is modified it may lead to another type of crime or and also an increase in it.

I feel if MPs can try and get away with "fiddles" so can the benefit fraudsters.

Interesting that so many condone Wishy and Washy attempts to become PM and side kick having attempted expense fiddling and then damn somebody on less than 10000 a year.

What examples are they to the public.

The We Can Get Away With It Brigade". The same people who are damning others.

Oh, Don't all shout. I know they gave the loot back.

They shouldn't have used their sticky little fingers in the first place.

Info to all,

Problems here sent to Ian via the manage bugs etc page.

Got a reply back from Ian within 1 min (efficient as ever) he is getting someone to take a look at the problem.

Erm.....,err....., well, it's perhaps best to take care on the A1 near Wetherby, particularly if you are in a Clio....

ExecLine,

I am a voluntary tutor for RosPa the advanced driver training group.
i have sent this to other members.

Perhaps the lorry driver should either come to us, specsavers (what an advert) or both.

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Hope the Government don't see the You Tube clip, they are just daft enough to link it with CO2 reducing.

Reduce your Vehicle Excise Duty now. Get a lift from a passing lorry.

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Ian
Traders Thread still showing -6.8577 of 8571.

tyketto,

Yes, George is aware of it and is looking into it,

Ian

It appears the You Tube link has been removed.
Presumably the car driver or someone else was injured. If so fair enough.
If not I can't understand why, unless the poster has requested it (I understand they can do this) and is thinking of a way to make some cash out of the clip.

I believe the event is being investigated by the police and also the trucker's employers.

I have read that the distance travelled with the two vehicles connected together was about half a mile. The lady driver in the Clio must have been frightened to bits and was seen braking (brake lights on in the video clip) and also heard sounding her horn.

I would think it has been felt necessary to check the truck driver out more thoroughly.

Careless driving? Probably a Yes.

Carless driving? Definitely a No. Teeheehee. :-)