Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Tabby,

Be careful who you lump or group me with, I could end up being offended. Very offended , you may have notice how I wilt at the thought.

But, I have to say that having had 4 children I am used to unruly children to deal with.

Have a nice day.

A plea,

Not taking anyones side, just that this used to be such a friendly, none back biting thread. Lets keep it that way, 'PLEASE', otherwise it will just become a platform for insults, and the like, and most regulars will start to ignore it.

greekman re 'Handcuffs removed, cigs and a light given, both left alone. Few minutes later hear commotion. Enter room, Solicitor lying on floor bad gash to head (he had been smacked with ash tray) taken to hospital, few stitches.' He learnt a valuable lesson that day---smoking is bad for your health, serves him right eh!
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George,

Your right of course. The incident was before the smoking ban in places of work, which out of interest allowed prisoners the right to smoke for many month after the ban came in. Prisoners rights over anyone else's obviously.

FredI do know you and Chris have your different viewsindeed we dont agree on some pointslisten
YourselfChris and the other good guyswould not try and play mind games for financial gainmany of the Gang dont give a fcuk about how they get your stockor how much you loseit is their job to con youask yourself why would certain posters spend hours of their valuable time advising you to sellwhen they dont even hold a interest in the companyare they angels?I dont think so.

Yet more interesting news from my local paper...

Bobbies can't get on their bikes yet as they need health and safety training

Northampton Chronicle
22 March 2010
By Wayne Bontoft

Plans to bring back police officers on push bikes to an area of Northampton have been delayed because the officers need health and safety training.

Residents of Kingsley and Parklands had expected to see officers riding a fleet of mountain bikes in the area, but during a public meeting they were told their deployment would be delayed until the summer because the officers needed to take a training course before getting into the saddle.

The meeting was chaired by Northampton Borough Council member, Councillor Malcolm Mildren (Ind, Parklands), who described the situation as 'foolish'.

He said: "People thought it was very strange when we were told the situation at the meeting. You would have thought riding a bike would be common sense, it's the kind of thing where you can either do it or you can't. I've not ridden a bike in years, but I'm pretty sure I could get on one and not be a total disaster."

It is hoped that when the bikes are in use, they will be used by officers to access places which are inaccessible to squad cars.

Councillor Mildren said: "They've got these bikes to make it easier to get into places like Bradlugh Fields and it does seem foolish that they've apparently got all this equipment but they're not using it. I don't see why they can't use one of the schools for their training sessions, then they could help teach the children at the same time. I just hope they will be up and running at some point this year."

A spokesman for Northamptonshire Police said officers had to undergo a 10-hour training course before being allowed to use bicycles on duty.

She said: "Officers need a 10-hour training course before going out on these bikes. The course covers issues relating to using a bike on patrol, including how to use the bike as defence if confronting an offender."

Last year, a group of cycling police officers from across England, Wales and Northern Ireland received national ridicule after drawing up a 93-page guide on how to ride a bike.

The document told officers how to balance, brake and turn safely as well as suggesting they wore padded shorts to protect their bottoms.

Northamptonshire Police has not said if any similar advice is given in its training sessions.

Looks like the video link above is a true story - I know vet's charges are expensive, but even so :-)

Speechless !!!

Some 'jobsworth' will suggest doing her for using the telephone whilst driving.
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Tabby,

In your argument about the actions of solicitors, one thing is being missed that is the implementation of criminal law is based on being innocent until proven guilty in a recognised court of law. Hopefully, that applies to all.

Do we want a return to lynching?
Who will the mob lynch, them or us?

To have a decent society, the law (all law) need to be upheld, even if it allows some villains to escape conviction. Minor transgressions may be treated summarily, by the various administrative bodies, as long as appeals to the courts are allowed.

Otherwise, you may be allowing the forces of law, to judge guilt on the bases of intuition, or even less usefully value judgement.

One thing, which I would like to see, is that those who plead not guilty and are found guilty have an increase in their sentence , related to the increase in cost of the court action. This again has problems, in that some innocents may opt for the safe route of a minimal sentence, in fear of having an exorbitant cost of pleading their innocence.

If we give up the forfeit the rights of the defendants, we may all be in trouble.

A thing which worries me in the current atmosphere, is the possible local political interference in the appointment of chief police officers.

Fred stop oversimplifying everything

while we may owe a great debt of grattitude to our police let us not get carried away - we should never forget, and i MEAN never FORGET THE LIVES THEY HAVE DESTROYED in the past -NEVER !!!!! ..By that i mean the lives of the Guildford 4, the Birmingham 6, Annie Mcguire and her family ,the Cardiff 3,the Bridgewater 4 or the shooting- by shotgun- of a man within the confines of an east london police station. ect ect .. ,,,The true sign of a mature democracy is surely one that shows justice to those who are the least deserving ........Had the police Fed had their way those very cases would have resulted in people being hung ,,,,,shame on your house...l fully endorse Freds analysis and find it anything but simplistic

TheFrenchConnectionmy humour Im afraid whilst I agree with a lot of your viewssome of your examples go back to before a lot of us were bornif these are the only examples we can findand those convicted were evidently no angelsand with previousputs it into a kinda perspective?now that dont make it rightbut?

"Better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer" - William Blackstone, late 18th century.

To go beyond is sometimes necessaryto avoid falling short Tabasco 2010

please dont get me wrong tab ...i wasnt having a poke at you mon pote........Perhaps a better system would be found in my homeland . The police do the arresting / an investigating magistrate does the questioning .Letting the police do both is asking for trouble

TheFrenchConnectionthe way of life in France answers all questionsthey found the formula many years ago

Kayak
Jade Goody was a wonderful Mother that was taken from life
Katie Price is a dont know the Father grew the tits with a knife
Life aint fair

Whoa ....Err Whas happening ? ..Kayak posts a picture of an execution ...and citizen tab responds with post about that awful woman -namely Price.K ...............Have i missed something here ? Mind you when a decadent hedonistic old man like Hugh Heffner calls Price a very bad girl after her antics at one of his parties it makes the mind boggle . The woman is certainly no lady and thats a fact ......