Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

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NM,

Morality is flexible and usually pragmatic..

Value judgements are often bought and vary from time to time.

I would not like to have lived in Britain in the earlier periods of the 20th century.

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What I would like to know is, the amount of money which Israeli groups are giving to the various political parties, and what they are expecting to get in return?

Perhaps, a light slap on the wrists.

Unfortunately, Israeli lobbying is embraced by all three major parties.

What does Israel get from it?

What for, do they consider different allegiances when legislation?

I am referring to the Cons. Labour and Liberal. Friends of Israel.

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FSA: Biggest-ever insider-trading raid
Deutsche Bank, the leading German bank, the French giant BNP Paribas and hedge fund Moore Capital are now known to have workers caught up in an FSA probe.
The operation, which began in 2007, is the FSA's biggest operation against insider dealing.
It is alleged the city professionals passed inside information to traders, either directly or via middlemen.
The traders then allegedly acted on this information and made significant profits as a result.

Mnamreh,

Re Guilt and Shame.... Agree 100%.

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Clegg goes to the Westminster Chapel prays to God and asks: please God if I am Prime Minister how many years before the people of Britain will be happy again?
One hundred years, replies God. Clegg weeps and leaves.
Cameron goes to the Westminster Chapel prays to God and asks: please God if I am Prime Minister how many years before the people of Britain will be happy again?
Fifty years, replies God. Cameron weeps and leaves.
Brown goes to the Westminster Chapel prays to God and asks: please God if I continue to be Prime Minister how many years before the people of Britain will be happy again?
There is a spooky silenceGod weeps and leaves

NM.

Thanks and apologies, I had "is not" where I don't think it should have been.

I have edited the sentence to be more in line with what I was thinking,

(At the time, I was looking back over the "moral" changes over the last 50years.)

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Tabasco,

Very funny, but on trying to second guess what was coming I thought your last line was going to be one of the following four.

1 Brown goes to Westminster Capel...Prays to God.....Please God if I continue to be Prime Minister how many years before the people of Britain believe I am God.

2 God goes to Westminster Chapel....Prays to Brown.

3 Brown goes to Westminster Chapel....Prays to self.

4 Both Brown, God and the Holy Spirit go to Westminster Chapel .....Pray To Peter Mandelson, the real Messiah.

Greek,

Many a true word is said in jest.

Be careful what you are saying, he may hear you!

Just thinking about "shame".

Does one beat it into somebody else.

How long should that experience/feeling last?

Who defines what is shameful?

I will know return to the charts, something else I don't understand.

Greeklol.all four possible
I cannot understand how the markets have held up so wellI still believe we are in recession? the number of Britons claiming unemployment benefits fell unexpectedly in FebruaryI would say the number of threatening adverts on TV for illegally claiming benefitsalong with the degree of difficulty has helped crucially the number of people in employment also fell to a four-year lowvery worrying!The latest labour market data don't help to clear up any of the uncertainty about the economic outlookCity bonuses asidewage rates are poorwhich might have helped with labour/employmentbut figures dont seem to back this theory upand also leave families with less money in their pockets to spendor debt manage?RBS and Lloys committed to lend an extra 25 billion and 14 billion respectively in return for state supporton the understanding that credit-starved businesses could surviveof course the Banks failed miserablyblaming falling demand for business loans due to recessionwho buys that one?I struggle to feel positive about the marketsbut obviously those holding the big bucks are confidentor are investors/small traders getting mugged into another big hitI like to think I am covered as Labour seeks to cut a budget deficit set to hit 12 percent

Fred,

Between God and my wife taking notice of me, I think I have better odds on the wife. So no chance there then.

Tabasco,

I have no faith in the markets whatsoever, due to the huge amount of debt to which I feel, the Government has buried it's head in the sand hoping it will just go away. Whoever gets in, I can't see things improving for several years, unless they bite the bullet now. I decided to take a chance about a month ago and sold out of the market, only retaining the few shares I have in Blue Sky or Bust type companies. You know those that can possibly go up or down by double digits because of news relating directly to them. Over 50% of my portfolio is now in cash.
May of course have called it wrong, but when confidence goes, it is hard to get it back. Sooner miss out on a small rally than stay in awaiting a massive drop, when everyone does wake up to the debt, bond crisis.

Greek a good disciplined call
The banks were given a life-linein return they were given a target and asked to lend money to those businesses in urgent needthey were also warned about bonusesthey failed on both countsif they cannot be trusted in those circumstances.I would never trust them againthey claim to be irreplaceableI saygive it a go!

No mention of :

Vat fraud and Tax fraud or dubious "avoidance" .

If some of that was in the kitty the funds may look a little better.

I wonder how the latter equate to "benefit fraud".

Similarly I have been taking some cash out as well, although I have picked up 1 or 2 more small oilies and a gold miner, Norseman (NGL). I must have it wrong because for the life of me I cannot see this market going higher, infact I'm surprised how resilient it has been, and with the consumer about to get hit with higher taxes etc. how can the housing, retail and motor industries continue to defy gravity?
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Georgethey cant!

Fredthat is designer avoidancefor the privileged fewI believe the chancellor has three times more tax revenue than he expectedfrom the one-off Bankers bonus tax

Budget started now

Spot on with that three times, tabasco.
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