Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

My education continues, I now know what the current bun means. I always thought of an Eccles cake. Right good they are.

Max.

Labour may have its problems, but this present tory government must go down in the history as the most incompetent and directionless in recent history.

The components parts of it are in disarray and more interest in their own "places" in history rather than "governing" for the good of the country.

The problem presented to May by overconfident and shortsighted Cameron and partners may end up in the split up of the tory party.

W/s.

The stealthy rise of Martin Selmayr, the 'monster' of Brussels, shows why we must go

By
Fraser Nelson

22 February 2018 • 8:44pm



Martin Selmayr with his former boss behind him Credit: Virginia Mayo/AP



They call him 'Rasputin', and the stitch-ups he engineered were a key factor in 2016's Brexit vote

It was the perfect coup. Until recently, no one imagined that Martin Selmayr had any ambitions to run the European Union civil service – or that such a job could be used as a political power base. When he was named as Eurocrat-in-chief, two days ago, his enemies were astonished.

He had not been on any shortlist; they had no time to organise against him. But the most ambitious man in Brussels – nicknamed “Rasputin,” “the monster” and worse – will soon be in charge of the whole machine with its 32,000 staff. As one EU official put it: “he takes all the power – completely.”


More here if you sign up: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/02/22/stealthy-rise-martin-selmayr-monster-brussels-shows-must-go/

Hils , have faith. We will leave on 29/03/19.

There is no appetite from either side for another referendum. All we have is a disproportionate amount of air time being given to hardened remoaners who still won't accept the result.

Can't wait to see how Labour explain how staying in the customs union in its current form equates to leaving the EU and how much he is willing to pay for the privilege.

Dilbert,

I had faith in Alvaro Morata yesterday. Fat lot of good that did!

:o)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2018/feb/26/brexit-tories-lash-out-at-corbyn-as-he-backs-staying-in-customs-union-with-eu-politics-live



Boris Johnson
✔ @BorisJohnson

Corbyn’s Brexit plan would leave U.K. a colony of the EU - unable to take back control of our borders or our trade policy. White flag from labour before talks even begin.


12:11 PM - Feb 26, 2018

Better than a serfdom to the money lenders and the rest of the world !

Haystack [Send an email to Haystack] [View Haystack's profile] - 30 Jan 2018 13:33 - 8553 of 8740
Laura Kuenssberg is easily the best political journalist which is why she was awarded that.

I'm aware of the award and it doesn't say much for political journalists. The reports I've seen have been bad edits of the original coverage. No problem editing for the main news broadcasts, it's when the edit is misleading.

Cheers,
KidA

Lol nice one Boris.

Now Corby and his loonies have got one leg off the fence their Brexit plan will be shot to pieces in the coming weeks.

Already members of his own party speaking out against it , many of them represent strong leave constituencies and are for Brexit themselves.

That lot is going to make any division in the Tory party look a minor problem compared to their own splits.

Foot in her mouth Abbott on Question Time this week , that should be a laugh.

Rees-Mogg: Brussels’ Demand for Supremacy of EU Courts After Brexit Would Turn UK into ‘Convict State’

Breitbart News
Brexit: Thomas Frey/AFP
by LIAM DEACON
27 Feb 2018145

Unelected Brussels bureaucrats are set to demand the UK continue to obey the rulings of European Union courts for an indefinite period after Brexit as they maintain their uncompromising stance in divorce negotiations.

The UK must bow down to the European Court of Justice (ECJ) as the ultimate arbiter of treaty-related disputes during and after the divorce and ‘transition period’, the European Commission is expected to insist in a draft withdrawal agreement to be released Wednesday.

The bloc wants the so-called “governance mechanism”, seen by three sources who spoke to the Financial Times, to be enforceable with punitive sanctions including cutting the UK off from the European Union’s (EU) Single Market.

It is contained within a 160-word document alongside other demands likely to enrage those hoping for a clean break from the EU, and comes days after the Prime Minister reportedly surrendered to the bloc on continuing open borders and maintaining “regulatory alignment”.

Jacob Rees-Mogg, the Tory MP who chairs the pro-Brexit European Research Group (ERG), said the European Commission plan would turn Britain into a “convict state”.

“I think the EU is going to suggest some things that the British government will reject this week and this sounds like one of them,” he said.

“It would turn us from a vassal state into a convict state, sentenced to hard labour for our love of democracy.”

The bloc wants the so-called “governance mechanism”, seen by three sources who spoke to the Financial Times, to be enforceable with punitive sanctions including cutting the UK off from the European Union’s (EU) Single Market.

No. "The bloc" doesn't want this. Surely to God it doesn't want this.

And what on earth is the point of us relying on any continuity of trade with "the EU bloc" if we have no powers over the governance of that trade with it?

This is 'Mr Barnier' that wants to bully us with this shite.

Italian Election this weekend.

Exec,

You are beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

But!

There's no point in entering into an agreement like that, it would have to be broken almost from the word go.

No politician would commit themselves to a one way agreement (not even Treesa)

What is interesting to me is the number companies I have which are returning higher dividends and buying back their own shares, rather than using "cash" to expand their business.

What do they know?

It might have something to do with bonuses Fred.

Jack the shareprice higher, collect a juicy bonus for a job well done.