Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Well spotted, Doc.

:o)

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PartridgeI have a friend whos son had a job with a very well known Big Bank in the Green Park areahe was literally persuaded/told to get rich foreigners to sign up to various schemes that he knowingly ripped off the customerwhen he questioned the Banks actionshe was told in no uncertain terms to carry out these instructionshe also told the Bank in no uncertain terms to hire a crook if they wanted to commit crimehe maintained his integrity and leftthe Bank found a crook to replace

tab..your friend's son had courage and youth on his side. Suspect that some decent people who have been there many years suffer a crisis of conscience as they cannot afford to go elsewhere.

Exec,

8869 interesting post.

Would you like a 12 week holiday in one of HM rest homes or prisons?

One of the problems with policies are delivering the changes suggested.

But one of my gripes is that we have had too many changes in too short a time and it would be more sensible to allow things to bed down and then make the smallest changes to improve functioning.

I think the constant changes have been the cause of much dissatisfaction, disharmony and "air" of resentment in the public services.

Excellent posts Hilary. Everyone wise and intelligent.

The banks shuld have definately been allowed to go bust. Brown has engineered the bigest bust in the history of our country.

The pseudo-intellectual Guardian reading idiot Fred is the type that got the country into the mess it is in at present.

On a lighter note:



I just applied for a Planning permission for a new house.



It was going to be 100 ft tall and 400 ft wide with 9 turrets at



various heights and windows all over the place and a loud outside entertainment sound system.



It would have parking for 200 cars and I was going to paint it snot green with tatty pink trim.



The Council Planning Department told me to clear off.



So I sent in the application again, but this time I called it a Mosque.



Work starts on Monday ......

PS, That is why I think the current "policies" on schools and police forces, advocated by the tories are daft.

This is me ,very funny , but unfortunately would be the case .

This-is-me.

Spot on yet again.

Tabasco.

You say re Gordon Brown, "there could still be a future for him in waiting as a Catholic Priest". True but the difference is GB has shafted just about everyone, whereas Catholic Priests have only (OK you fill in the rest).

TIM,

I am not certain whether you are a member of the BNP, but with your obvious intellect and leanings, I am sure Nick Griffin could find a useful position for you.

I would think you would feel at home in their company.

Buy the Guardian and expand yourself, it is better than comics.

The Guardian is for those who consider themselves superior but who, in reality, are incapable of recognising where there is a false premise (often hidden) to an argument and where the logic is flawed. Your cheap shot about the BNP merely demonstrates the truth of this. You have also, almost certainly, failed to recognise that the current success of the BNP is due to the fact that the majority of the population agrees with their immigration policies and not those of the government. They know this even if you do not, and this is why they mostly only talk about immigration. Try reading The Sun; at least they keep it simple and you will not have the wool pulled over your eyes the way the Guardian does.

Saint Vince Cable is a dodgy political economist too. Until 2008, he was a fierce advocate of joining the Euro -- which would have done for us for sure. Seems he changed his mind in the last two years, figuring that control over our economy, particularly interest rates, was what saved us from complete disaster.

Which is what the rest of us knew for years before.

Let's face it folks, this wreck of a corrupt and incompetent government has to go. The only credible alternative is the Tories. All this mindless wishy-washy, dewy-eyed chatter about how wonderful a hung parliament would be would die on the mornng after when the UK's credit rating gets downgraded, and the BofE has to raise domestic interest rates to deal with the debt interest crisis that then ensued. We'd be in the shit with Greece.

Tim.

With regards to P8881.

I am surprised if your first sentence regarding the Guardian has much if any truth in it, and that if it does, I would have expected you to be an ardent indiscriminating reader of it.

The remainder of the posting again contains sweeping statements about public opinion in a similar manner to the way the BNP broadcast theirs.

I dont think the general public are in agreement with your positioning, or that of the BNP., although there are recognisable problems with regard to past and present levels of immigration, some of those relating to the current economic circumstances.

(The solutions suggested by many of that ilk are simplistic and pay no attention to the diversities and complexities of the problems. Also, they do not reflect the possible responses from other countries.)

As far as reading the Sun is concerned I will leave that for you, it seems a suitable level for you. Enjoy it.

As far as my reading matter is concerned, I havent bought a copy of the Guardian within the last 2-3 years.

I have read extracts from the Guardian on a few occasions, but these were either on the Internet, or when they have been sent to me by friends and contacts.


As far as cheap shots are concerned, I refer you to you previous postings.

Have a nice day.

Fred ,,i think it was meant as a joke (TIM) ,lighten up man ...
As it was i thought it was a funny joke ,,,,,,,
This thread used to be so much fun ,,got a bit too political now ....

Well said Jimmy.

One of the biggest problems with this thread, is that it is becoming too personally insulting.
My own opinion of the Guardian is that it is the most politically slanted newspaper there is, but that does not mean we have to insult those who read it.
Argue/debate by all means, but if this thread continues to descend into schoolboy type taunts/insults it will end up loosing those who have interesting things to say.

To those who are targets of such childish comments, rise above it and 'Don't bite back'.

In the past some debates on here have been better than those of our so called political leaders.

As to Fred, I tend to disagree with far more of his political views than I agree with, but on reading his posts, and the way he puts his points over, he is a long way from being an idiot.
I do find it difficult to 'not' get annoyed at people who have any support for Brown and his party, and will debate vigorously on the matter. I have approached several labour MPs and their supporters and argued very vehemently, and have won many points, (they do find it difficult to defend the indefensible) but I would have won far less points if I had descended into the realm of insults.

Greek.

JimmyIf I lightened up any moreyou would see me in AmericaPoliticallyits that time of the yearand as we are faced with Hobson's choice.I vote for Hobson!seems like a nice boy?

JB.

Thank you.

But your interpretation of TIM postings are slightly different to mine.

Those who know me, will recognise my sense of humour is often aimed at myself.

You may notice that Tim had made similar remarks on more than one occasion before I responded.

I do not see the need for abuse, nor do I see abuse as humour, but you are entitled to your opinion.

Perhaps, this post is also meant to be humorous. Make your own judgement.

Fredwe are much the sameyou talk intellectual bo**ocksand I talkbo**ocks bo**ocksIm normally right though

Tabby,

What do the asterisks stand for?

"I'm normally right though.."

You must have stopped the tablets I gave you!

8-(((((