Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Am I mistaken or did I hear that the one with the "stage" gangster name....is going to give an amnesty to all the illegals ?.....nuts...round them up and let's have some chain-gangs...before deporting them !.

RF my interpretation was the amnesty was on a condition that they became normal working tax paying citizensand disclosed all evidence and knowledge to capture the gangs that traffic the immigrantsyou would never catch all those already illegally hereso it sounds like the best option?I cant think of a better one!

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Euhhhh !?...

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A man asked an American Indian what was his wife's name.
He replied, "She called Five Horses".

The man said, "That's an unusual name for your wife.

What does it mean?"
The Old Indian answered, "It old Indian Name. It mean . . .



....nag, nag, nag, nag, nag!"

CNBC sayingreported Greece are just about to announce an appeal for aid?

The sh*t is just about to hit the fan!

Whos next?

From the BBC - Greece 'to activate EU/IMF loans'

Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou is expected to ask for activation of the EU/IMF debt rescue mechanism, it has been reported.

Just been told this :

Marriage is like sleeping with the enemy!

Why didnt gorgeous George Crapinhalo come clean weeks ago?

Tabasco,

But it won't work.
If they are given amnesty before they get a job, or/and come forward that just can not work. They also if here illegally can not obtain work, so can not get a job prior to an amnesty (most have undeclared jobs anyway).
An amnesty would only encourage more illegals to come here, go underground hoping that another amnesty would follow.
There is an alternative that would work.
1 Draconian fines for those that employ illegalls, I went on a few raids with immigration, mainly at fast food businesses, who with agricultural are the main offenders.
2 No benefits.
3 Send them back without delay, and sod the rules that no other country bothers with or obeys.
4 Stricter boarder controls, which we no longer have thanks to the 'Freedom of Movement, that allow anyone who is resident of the EU countries to come and go as they please.

Net immigration is still at 163,000 per year, and that is those we know about.
Where will it end.
If the UK was a ship it would be sinking ever lower.
Unless you want the whole of the UK to be concreted over, the number of immigrants must be greatly reduced, and net immigration levels must be zero.

A couple of years ago if immigration was even mentioned, the speaker would have been labelled as Xenophobic, this was due to those in power not daring to look at the truth.
I am certain, that in a few years, people will look back, when the indigenous population of the UK are in the minority and say 'how could we allow this to happen'.
I know the augment that we are all a mixture of Anglo Saxon, Vikings etc, but the UK population at the end of the first century, about the middle of the Viking settlements era was about 1,000,000, a sixtieth of todays population figures

Everyone accepts that within the next 40 years the population of the UK will if increasing at the present rate be up from 60,000,000 to 70,000,000.

The problem is staring us in the face, why can't we all see it!

GreekI dont know the answer?but when a crook turns goodhis mates tend to worryanyway I thought your first three ideas were already in placeand as far as stricter border controlsthat cost moneysomething we aint got!

Do you fancy changing your Nom De Plume Greekman? lol

But surely the money spent on 'boarder controls' would be saved via the cost of returning them to country of origin.
As for changing my Non De Plume, what would you and others suggest, (thats done it now, awaiting suggestions with trepidation).

Note......An ancestor of mine was, 'Vlad the impaler', perhaps thats were I get my ideas from.

http://hamsterrepublic.com/html/vladhistory.html

Compare our views on the Burka with how Vlad dealt with such things.

Once, two ambasadors from the Sultan came with a message for Vlad. When they entered his throne room, he asked them to remove their turbans. It was considered rude to address the prince without taking off one's hat. The Turks, however, took exception to this request. For one thing, Vlad an the Sultan where not on good terms, so insulting him really didn't seem to matter, and just as importantly, the turbans were not just headgear, they were a symbol of the Muslim religion. The Turks refused, not knowing just how serious a mistake it was to insult Vlad. Vlad immediately ordered his guards to sieze them, and then stated that if they were so unwilling to part with the turbans, that they should be nailed to their heads. Vlad then watched in satisfaction as the Turks writhed and screamed as large nails were driven into their skulls.

Ok perhaps a tad, OTT.

mnamreh - I remember Kenny - Genius 'Its All In The Best Possible Taste!' He would certainly have a field day with the present so called political debates :o)))

GreekI agreefor illegal immigrants I would like to see the ArmySASCommandosArmed Policeeven Nick Griffin could do a shift on all our portshe could do with the exercisefat ba**ard!but this Government wont pay

New Nom De Plume :-
How about "Sleekman"

Greek,

An ancestor of mine was, 'Vlad the impaler'

Not certain about "was".

I thought you must have been the gent in blue I met the other night!

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One difficulty with preventing immigration, is how to deal with "holiday" visitors and "students" and "business" visitors, who can disappear into to populace.

To prevent this one needs to have ID cards, which have to be carried at all times and the development of a Police State. (Stop and search, with road blocks etc,.)

ID cards could prevent "false" social service claims and reduce fraud in general.

The police state would probably be unacceptable to the majority of people in this country and when I spent 3mths in a police state, in my younger days, found it fairly easy enough to "work" round.

I cannot see the difference between holding the information on an ID card and data base and holding Name, Sex, Age, DOB and Address etc. on a data base.

(Some of this information is already on records of Birth and Deaths data bases.)

Again, I can't see the fuss about keeping DNA information. To me, it is no more infringing of liberty than having Blood groups, Names etc. on GP and Hospital records.

I think and amnesty on immigrants may be helpful and cutting down various forms and abuse and crime.

Nickname,

Perhaps, Inspector Clusso!

Bit below the belt FredI would go as far as to saya bit below the socks?