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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Fred1new - 09 May 2010 18:56 - 9059 of 81564

Greek,

If you saw me, you would think I wouldn't get any offers.

That is what my wife says!

I have 4 daughters and know what coalition means.

I can't get any of my major policies through.


edited.

Haystack - 09 May 2010 19:01 - 9060 of 81564

Before opting for Fred, you should explore all other offers of such a coalition.

Fred1new - 10 May 2010 18:04 - 9061 of 81564


With Gordon being prepared to stand down, what chances a Lib/Lab coalition now.

How about Alistair Darling as PM and Vince as Chancellor and Cameron as doorman to No 10.

----------------

Hays, could find a job as gardener.

Fred1new - 10 May 2010 18:07 - 9062 of 81564

PS.

Hilary as a cook, as it appears she is so fond of recipes.

That should stir things up a bit and keep her occupied.

8-)

Haystack - 10 May 2010 18:31 - 9063 of 81564

Fred
Are you any good at cleaning toilets? I wouldn't want to clean it after Gord has been in there though.

Fred1new - 10 May 2010 18:49 - 9064 of 81564

I could use you for the brush.

Not that you would notice.


Fred1new - 10 May 2010 18:50 - 9065 of 81564

PS.

I have cleared up a lot of messes in my time.

Got well paid for it.

greekman - 10 May 2010 19:00 - 9066 of 81564

After Nick Clegg stated only a week ago that PR would not be a prerequisite of his party backing another in the case of a hung parliament, and his statement that he would seek to back the party that secured the most votes and seats, he has now lost all credibility. Although he also stated he would put the country before party, he is in talks with Labour, a party that received fewer seats than the Conservatives and also about 2,000,000 votes less, meaning the country on average did not want a Labour Government.
If the deal is done between the parties than came second and third, it will eventually result in a Prime Minister that for the second consecutive time has no mandate to rule.

Nick Clegg appears to have less moral fibre than Gordon Brown had, and thats saying something.
Politicians just looking out for themselves, now where have we heard that before.

The names change, the politics don't.

Kayak - 10 May 2010 19:25 - 9067 of 81564

I think he's just strengthening his negotiating position by having two irons in the fire.

skinny - 10 May 2010 19:36 - 9068 of 81564

"two irons" thats a bit harsh :-)

Fred1new - 10 May 2010 20:18 - 9069 of 81564

Greek,

64% of the electorate voted against the tories.

A rainbow coalition would be attractive with blue on the outside.

I think G Brown is doing the decent thing.

Perhaps, Wisteria should do the same thing before the grandees put their knives in. (He could go back to Eton and learn how accounts. (His own I mean.)

Osborne, could step into his shoes.

Very good result with improving prospects every hour.

Now put that glass down before you break it!

8-)

Kayak - 10 May 2010 20:57 - 9070 of 81564

Fred, surely that can't be right? I thought that 71% of the electorate had voted against Labour, correct me if I'm wrong.

Fred1new - 10 May 2010 21:05 - 9071 of 81564

Reminds me of a half empty glass.

I am an optimist.

MightyMicro - 10 May 2010 23:05 - 9072 of 81564

A Lib-Lab pact would be a coalition of losers.

This_is_me - 10 May 2010 23:29 - 9073 of 81564

Disappointing result for the UKIP even if they increased their share of the vote by a third. At least the so called Liberal so called Democrats made no progress.

My guess is another election by Oct.

greekman - 11 May 2010 07:43 - 9074 of 81564

Fred,

But as said by Kayak, far more voted against Labour, so your argument does not hold water.
It is a fact that Labour came second to the Tories, in both seats and votes, and it is solely for that reason a Lab/Lib pact is morally wrong.
I also heard Gordon Brown biographer say on BBC this AM that the country voted for a coalition. What a plonker. No one voted for a coalition, on the whole they voted for the three main parties. If we end up with a coalition it will only be a result of how things ended up, not because the population intended it.
I have spoken to several Labour voters, including a life long supporter, who is honest enough to admit that a Lab/lib pact would go against our so called democratic process.
Just imagine if Lab and got together with the Libs and discussed this issue on the possibility of a hung parliament prior to the election (I appreciate all 3 parties would have had their own plan) and it had become public knowledge that if Labour came second the Lib's would side with them.
Voters would have been shouting that no matter how they voted, if the result was as now, it would be a stitch-up.
I repeat, how can a party that came second (lost) with an unelected PM be our political rulers only by the backing of the party that came third (lost).
And if this does come off, we will have another unelected PM.
The public voice is being well and truly strangled.

Camelot - 11 May 2010 07:58 - 9075 of 81564

remember that we are still waiting for one more result

greekman - 11 May 2010 08:02 - 9076 of 81564

Yes, but it won't make any difference.

Camelot - 11 May 2010 08:23 - 9077 of 81564

the media will say it will be an approval rating on any coalition

greekman - 11 May 2010 09:37 - 9078 of 81564

Even with the assistance of the Lib's, Labour will still not have attained overall majority, so what then. A pact with the Scots and Welsh party MP's who as they have already stated, will do everything they can to make sure Scotland and Wales continue receiving beneficial rights over the English.
So we will continue to pay for none English living Student fees, Health care by way of Care Homes and free prescriptions, to name but a few inequalities.
A country fair for all. Presume they were not referring to England when they said that.
Why did we bother to vote! All it has achieved is that Nick Clegg and his party are the only ones who will decide who our next Government will be.
Remember when Clegg was asked what it was like to be a King maker, he replied that it would be the voters who decided who the next PM would be, not him. Obviously these were empty words.
If it wasn't for he risk of getting this country further and deeper into the 'Brown' (sic) stuff, I would advocate, 'Hang the lot of them, lets have a Lib/Lab pact and see what happens. I have no doubt that within 6 months this pact of losers would be shown up in their true colours, of Green for turncoats, resulting in another election where hopefully the Tories would easily obtain a majority vote, due to the populace deciding, 'We might not be able to trust the Conservatives, but we know damn well we can't trust the other lot'.
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