Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

What the ref saw:-



What everyone else saw:-

Many of us know the saying, 'Lions led by Donkeys' referring to the second world war.

The only saying I could think about after the England v Germany debacle was, 'Donkeys (the players) lead by an Ass (Capello).

I wonder what Crouchy, our best pre tournament scorer even allowing for the fact that he usually comes on as a late substitute has done to make Capello ignore him. Our main hope Rooney who was obviously not fit should never have started the match.
Just about everyone round me watching the match knew what was wanted, why didn't this highly paid manager.
Pathetic.
Of course with a 3 year 5 mill contract. Capello will want a massive payout to leave.

Has anybody questioned why/how and by which bunch of *$@%* Fabio Capello, with his extensive knowledge of English, was hired in the first place? Perhaps a bit of ire should be reserved for them too?! ;o)

Kim,

Couldn't agree more.
Many people have defending the decision re Capello due to his managerial record which in club football is second to none.
As to the comment of Capello's poor English, fully agree. How can you pass passion to your team through an interpreter.
We all know of many excellent club managers who are useless when it comes to being a manager of a national team, and visa versa.
Look at Maradona, who has a terrible record at club level but the international team and Argentina worship him so play their hearts out.

I always thought that they should have given Stuart Pearce the England job. I accept he had no national experience, but the players greatly admire him. He is 100% passion, so why not give him a temporary trial contract, for about a year. He has been Capello's right hand man long enough to have formed his own views, and he knows the players.
Or if you want a manager with greater experience, Harry Redknapp! again on a short contract.

Yes there are many problems, too many games both domestic and internationally, too many prima donna's, but the main problem appears to be the players and the manager 'don't gel'.

Anyone hear Chris Waddle's rant about it on the Today programme this morning at 08.30? Excellent stuff. He would've gone on to the end of the programme if they hadn't shut him up . . .

Greek - Every four years same old, same old, change the manager and pay him mega bucks, said manager picks (in his opinion) the best players, get together for a couple of weeks a year, play a few freindlies job sorted. Meanwhile back at the ranch said players play their hearts out for their respective clubs in the premiership and European competitions,gaining hero status and mega rich financially. End of the season World Cup is suddenly a reality, said players thrown together play a few meaningless warm up matches nothing to heavy must avoid injuries. Media hype machine wound up to fever pitch, Terry Venables launches a singing career!
1966 tiredly re-appears, England will win the World Cup again wont they?

Err No! Blame the manager, players can't play to his system and after all he's Italian after all, as soon as the players put on the England shirt revert to trembling wrecks who wouldn't get in a school team, embarrassed against lesser (so called ) opposition and get outplayed, outclassed by a young German team who have been together for all of five minutes and as sure as eggs are eggs will be destroyed by Argentina, or Brazil, or Spain. Ribbed unmercifully by our British cousins!

So what do we expect? sadly same old, same old. Initial calls for "We want an English manager guv" Good Idea! (Lets destroy the reputation of another Englishman). The usual cries from the media "Well we told you so all along" (twats). Meanwhile said England players go back to there clubs suitably ashamed, tails between theire legs, continue to be paid mega bucks, first couple of weeks face the wrath of respective supporters who once their teams start winning miraculously forgive them overnight! And guess what, the whole process starts all over again for the next four years!

Enough is Enough? I doubt it!

Any manager who plays Gerrard and Lamps in the sane team should be fired. Having said that the players are not good enough to win the World Cup.

Anyone notice that while the USA, the Swiss etc enter one team we enter 4 teams. Maybe if we stuck to ertering only one British team we would have more chance.

Shoppers will be banned from buying bread rolls or eggs priced by the dozen under new food labelling regulations proposed by the European parliament.

Products like this are to be sold by 'weight' instead. This starts early next year and the change is going to unnecessarily cost manufacturers, wholesalers and retailers millions. (*)

More at EU to ban selling eggs by the dozen

(*) Crackers or wot!

Q. How can you drop an egg six feet without breaking it?
A. By dropping it seven feet - it won't break for the first six.

Poor eggs! How would you like to be an egg? They only ever get laid once.

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just come across this on ADV*N

maestro. - 23 Apr'06 - 08:36 View 'maestro.' profile


Did Black Pope Order And Help Orchestrate 9/11? Or Is The Jesuit General What He Says He Is: A Holy Man, Serving God While Leading The Largest And Most Powerful Order in The Catholic Church?
Author of Vatican Assassins III, Eric Phelps, explores the true motives of Jesuit General Pete Hans Kolvenbach, as well as exploring his connection to 9/11.
20 Apr 2006

By Greg Szymanski




According to author Eric Phelps, Peter Hans Kolvenbach, the Jesuit General known as the Black Pope, ordered the 9/11 attacks assisted by a military advisor to warn of any mistakes and a confessor at his side to ease his conscience to absolve any sins.



The deadly plan, claims Phelps, was carried-out with the advice and consent of his general staff, composed of five assistants, each representing a hemisphere with many advisory Provincials, including 10 in the United States.



Further, success was guaranteed by total cooperation and obedience from New York Archbishop Edward Cardinal Egan through his obedient Central Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency, the Secret Service, Military Intelligence, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the Mafia.



Phelps also claims, through decades of research shunned by the press, the same gang of criminals and agencies worked together before in carrying out the Kennedy assassination and cover-up under the control of their former master, Jesuit trained Francis Cardinal Spellman.



Most people when reading Phelps accusations in his latest third edition of the Vatican Assassins - new and starting one like the Jesuits being thrown out of Iraq in 1969 leading to a rash of assassinations of top Iraqi leaders - remained either wide-eyed with disbelief since its difficult to fathom men of the cloth could be so diabolical and ruthless.



However, without hesitation or qualification, Phelps research has uncovered the top two per cent of the more than 21,000 Jesuits priests making up the largest worldwide Catholic Order of the Society of Jesus actually worship another god - Lucifer - after taking a blood oath on top of their priestly vows of poverty, chastity and obedience.



Since 9/11, the general consensus among truth seekers claim the WTC and Pentagon attacks were an inside U.S. government job, claiming the Zionist- controlled Council on Foreign Relations aided and abetted in the mass murder.



However, only a few courageous souls, including Phelps have suggested the Zionist Jews and the Council on Foreign Relations, including obedient U.S. government officials who have also taken the Jesuit blood oath through membership in Freemasonry, the Knights of Malta and other satanic cults, are actually controlled by a higher spiritual power, the evil power being the hierarchy of the Jesuit military-minded order.



And according to Phelps and other researchers dismissing the New World's plans for genocide and World War III without including the top spiritual controllers, the Jesuits, is akin to trying to run top notch gourmet restaurant without a chef.



Regarding the real reason 9/11 took place, Phelps said in a recent article "because the appointed time has arrived for the Jesuit General to destroy both the Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem, secretly using his CIA/Nazi-trained, Masonic Zionist Mossad in conjunction with his CIA/Nazi-trained, Masonic Islamic Intelligence Agencies, including Osama bin Laden's MAK and Pakistan's ISI, while shrouded in the confusion of a huge aerial war yet to come. This will enable the General's crusading Knights Templars (the present day Shriner Freemasons) to rebuild Solomon's Temple - for the Papal Caesar in Rome's Vatican.



"And how could the Black Pope destroy these Moslem Mosques, they comprising the third most important Islamic religious site in the world behind Saudi Arabia's Mecca and Medina, without causing an uncontrollable Moslem holy war, called a "jihad", resulting in the destruction of Pope Pius XII's creation of Zionist Israel? (Remember, Israel was admitted into the New York-based United Nations in 1949 through the efforts of Jesuit-trained Francis Cardinal Spellman - the darling of Pope Pius XII who, after his Jesuits carried out the Jewish Holocaust in Europe and then driving the survivors to Palestine, intended, under the guidance of his Jesuit confessor, Augustin Cardinal Bea, to make Jerusalem an international city - while governed by the Papal Caesar's Chaim Weizmann and his Masonic Jewish Zionists.)



"The Black Pope must cause a war using a country he also wishes to further destroy. Enter the "Holy Roman" Fourteenth Amendment American Jesuit Empire created in 1868 on the ruins of George Washington's Calvinist Republic, the last political stronghold of the Protestant Reformation with freedom of conscience, freedom of speech and freedom of the press."



Specifically, the devious 9/11 plan has been a topic of interest for more than four years with many scenarios being offered, but none have added the spiritual ingredient of the Jesuits.



Here is the Jesuit General Kovenbach's plan, according to Phelp's research:



"In synchronizing his worldwide overt and covert factions to work the Order's evil ends of the Vatican's Counter-Reformation in restoring the Papal Caesar as the absolute Universal Monarch of the World," wrote Phelps, adding "the Black Pope used his Masonically-controlled, fanatically anti-Jewish Race, Islamic Intelligence operatives under the domestic control of the CIA (Osama bin Laden having been directed, financed and trained by the CIA for at least ten years.



"Just like Jesuit-trained and CIA-financed Fidel Castro before he, like bin Laden, became a false enemy of the CFR-controlled American government) to be openly and notoriously instructed as Islamic pilots at the Venice Airport (a Florida facility used by the CIA since 1948) in order for Archbishop Egan's controlled American Press to spread the prepared news release that the doomed airliners were hijacked by "Arab terrorists" in the employ of Osama bin Laden when in fact, to the horror of the American pilots, the airliners had been taken over and guided to their targets, remotely controlled by American Military Intelligence operatives overseen by the Black Pope's CIA/NSA.



"The Mussulmans in training never boarded the airliners involved in the September attacks evidenced by the absence of Islamic names on all four passenger lists. There was no fight between the passengers and the "hijackers" on flight 93, as reported by the deceived wife of the late Jeremy Glick.



"For flight 93 was shot down by an F-16 fighter, blowing off its wing which landed at least six miles away from the main wreckage! And if the inexperienced "hijackers" had boarded all four airliners, the novices never would have been able to navigate the planes into the targets unless they had been crack fighter pilots according to a group of highly professional, both civilian and military, American aviators.



"Archbishop Egan's CFR-controlled American Press then placed the blame for these acts of high treason and murder squarely on the shoulders of the Black Pope's Saudi prince and CIA operative, Osama bin Laden, including his al-Qaeda Network secretly working for the Jesuit General's International Terrorist Network. Tens of thousands of "heretic and liberal" Americans perished, thereby justifying a war between the Moslem World and 'the Great Satan'."



"Although many have agreed the world is involved in a spiritual battle, Americans have failed to connect the deceptive dots, clinging to the shallow theory of a Muslim, Christian and Jewish battle without considering the possibility of a more demonic presence actually pulling the puppet strings.



Trying to unveil the black mask of secrecy worn by the Black Pope and his Illuminati minions, Phelps draws a conclusion worth considering, conclusions that should be open to public debate not hidden in the annals of untold stories.



"The institutions to be destroyed on September 11, 2001 were the Banking and Military centers of "the Great Satan" - the Pope's World Trade Center and the Pentagon overseen by his Knights of Malta - supporting and protecting the Pope's Zionist government of Israel.



"There, the Jewish People, in the midst of whom are the Lord's beloved Jewish Race, known as "the holy seed" with Biblical promises yet to inherit including the fulfilling of the Abrahamic and Davidic Covenants under their returning Messiah, the Lord Jesus Christ, have been set up to be ultimately betrayed, as they are unknowingly living under the secret government of the Black Pope, publicly overseen by his Masonic Jewish Zionists in conjunction with certain of his Masonic Talmudic Rabbis, who betrayed their own Jewish People, both racially and religiously, into Hitler's Death Camps during World War II.



"Its subterranean storehouse of gold quite possibly having been previously removed to the New York Federal Reserve Bank, the World Trade Center was sacrificed, internally, using surgically placed Composition C5 charges detonated by the New York Archbishop, Edward Cardinal Egan, through his unified American Intelligence Community.



The Black Pope now, according to Phelps, has a perfect war orchestrated between two peoples he wishes to destroy.



"For both Peoples, the White and Black Protestants and Baptists along with the Jewish Race of North America, and the Semitic Moslems of the Middle East, are condemned by the Jesuits' evil and wicked Council of Trent, they having been historically the greatest enemies of the Jesuit Order's "infallible" Pope, who, since the days of Innocent III (1215), has claimed to be the one true God on earth," said Phelps.

Pinched from another site.

A man escapes from prison where he has been for 15 years. He breaks into a house to look for money and guns and finds a young couple in bed.
He orders the guy out of bed and ties him to a chair, while tying the girl to the bed he gets on top of her, kisses her neck, then gets up and goes into the bathroom.
While he's in there, the husband tells his wife: "Listen, this guy's an escaped convict, look at his clothes! He probably spent lots of time in jail and hasn't seen a woman in years. I saw how he kissed your neck." If he wants s*x, don't resist, don't complain, do whatever he tells you. Satisfy him no matter how much he nauseates you. This guy is probably very dangerous. If he gets angry, he'll k*ll us. Be strong, honey. I love you."
To which his wife responds: "He wasn't kissing my neck. He was whispering in my ear. He told me he was gay, thought you were cute, and asked me if we had any vaseline. I told him it was in the bathroom. Be strong honey. I love you too!!"

Greeklol

On a serious note... A year ago the opportunity to borrow significant sums of money from the ECB at 1% was probably seen by many institutions as an opportunity to put a "risk free" trade on where they used the ECB cash to purchase longer dated government bonds and then took the turn. A nice little earner on the face of it.
However as we know that has not turned out to be the case and in reality the banks have probably been preparing for the expiry of the 442bn facility by selling some of the assets that they purchased with it in the first place.

Then we have investors service Moody's putting Spain's Triple-A credit rating on review for a possible downgrading because of concerns about the country's economy and plans for deficit reduction.
a bit late in the day spotting that one
Anyone got any good news?

Are yesAndy Murray in the semi finals

Probably old and you all know the answerCynic?
Anyone work out if you can produce a sentence with five ands together one after the otherand the sentence still makes sense.?.. Not that any of mine do
Good luck to SpainGood luck to Jenson and Lewisand good luck to my friends and family eating our BBQ?

The cat and the mouse.

The space between the 'cat' and 'and' and 'and' and 'the' is exactly the same size.

Spot on ExecI was told that the pub sign The Anchor and Hope was incorrectly written.a larger space between Anchor and and etc. Same explanation as yoursso go to the front of the classif you are already theredo a lap of honour!

What a rip off.

A few months ago an elderly uncle died, his will stating that his wife was executor.
As she is in her 90s we went with her to the Solicitors who had retention of the original will.
This will looked fairly simple, with no trusts and leaving everything to the wife/widow.
The solicitor, as they do offered to obtain probate, quoting a fee of 600 plus VAT and plus the 99 standard probate fee.
My auntie asked me if I would try to obtain probate on her behalf, something I had already offered to do.
Although I had never carried out such a procedure before, it took me a total time of 3 hours, not including the gathering of papers etc something the solicitor would want doing anyway.
The 3 hours also included filling in one set of forms twice as I had initially completed them wrong, prior to submission.
The forms were accepted by the probate office without any amendments being needed.
So the solicitors wanted 600 for less than 3 hours work. It would obviously have taken them far less than 3 hours, probably just with a solicitor signing the forms off after a junior had completed them.
Nice work if you can get it.

I do admit that if the will have been more complicated, I would probably not have attempted to do the work.

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Of course you won't have needed to pay for office space and a receptionist, nor insurance for any mistake you might have made. Also you won't have needed to write any letters to your aunt and store the file for years. Finally, you didn't need to cover yourself in case an unforeseen complication took you a few more hours to deal with what seemed at first sight a straightforward case, or even 30...

Greek.I think they have spotted a flaw in your argumentI think I would pay up myself?