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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

2517GEORGE - 12 Aug 2010 10:14 - 9309 of 81564

mnamreh-------you're almost certainly correct, but that's an improvement on Brown who had a shoe size bigger than his IQ.
2517

mnamreh - 12 Aug 2010 10:19 - 9310 of 81564

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kimoldfield - 12 Aug 2010 11:02 - 9311 of 81564

Do you mean count slowly, the number of clowns in 10 to 1 Downing Street? ;o)

mnamreh - 12 Aug 2010 11:43 - 9312 of 81564

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Chris Carson - 12 Aug 2010 12:05 - 9313 of 81564

Fred - Feel free to go back to France, Cynic has offered to buy your ticket and I will gladly carry your bags. Go for it!

greekman - 12 Aug 2010 13:06 - 9314 of 81564

Hi Fred,

Re Cameron and Clegg.
I think it is impossible to do as bad as the last lot. Labours record speaks for itself. As to the coalition, time as they say will tell. Many voters gave Labour 14 years, at least give this lot a bit longer to prove themselves, or not.
PS Send me a card if you go to France.
I do enjoy your input, although we will never agree on politics.

regards Greek.

This_is_me - 12 Aug 2010 13:12 - 9315 of 81564

The wquelch button above the thread header is the best way to deal with Fred.

This_is_me - 12 Aug 2010 13:13 - 9316 of 81564

Should I cut the grass this afternoon or risk leaving it for another few days?

greekman - 12 Aug 2010 13:20 - 9317 of 81564

I tend to squelch posters who are rude, personally insulting or just post plain continual rubbish I have no interest in.
As for Fred, he comes over as a Die in the Wool Labourite, but that does not rate him a squelch in my book. I do tend to let go of political discussions after a couple of exchanges, as Fred and myself completely disagree, and it saves the, Yes they are, No their not, type of posts.
I appreciate others have a different criteria re squelching, to which I have no problem.

Fred1new - 12 Aug 2010 15:59 - 9318 of 81564

Greek,

I hope it is "dyed-in-the-wool". But at the moment,I am grimly holding on to life, in order to torment and spite a few.

I hope, that I have time to convert you to holding a sensible and responsible political position!

My leanings are to-wards socialism, rather than conservative tribalism and see the unmoderated self-interest of the present and recent tory party as destructive to social unity, with the associated malfunctioning.

But I have problems with the "New Labour" and its lack of courage on policies and some of its tragic decisions on supporting American policies and pandering to the press and acceding to public whim.

One of the most irritating features of the previous government was for me, its short ill-thought responses to "minor" problems with the same knee jerk, emotion grabbing response as the new "grating leader Cameron" has.

With the majority they had, there was now need for Labour to do so.

But I do believe they improved the Health Service, Education (in general), especially social services, (in spite of highly publicised failures) and the general infrastructure of the country.

Britain was in many ways a far more comfortable country for the majority of people in 2008 than 1997. (That excludes some of those who worship Mammon.)

Also, I believe that the labour government made many mistakes, some of which they should/could have admitted to earlier.

As far a party affiliation is concerned, I have always felt I had more in common with Libs/Dems of Ming, Steel,Paddy and Vince, but have no time for Clegg and many of his associates.

My feelings are the moment are that the present government will not last 5years.

I think they are on a disaster course as far as the economy is concerned and are going to create social misery and disharmony, when it is unnecessary.

I think unemployment will soar and the employment and unemployment figures given recently don't take into account part time working. etc.

I think this may cause more unrest than we had in the 70s, which was viewed by many as a very dangerous period.

More dangerous than 1926-1938 period.

Have a nice holiday sometime and try France. (The true home of socialism.)

I will give you the password. if they won't let you in.

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greekman - 12 Aug 2010 17:49 - 9319 of 81564

Fred,

Been to France twice, absolutely loved it, so may go back next year.

As to 'dyed-in-the-wool', your right of course. The problem with being dyslexic, is that when you spell check a word, it does not correct the meaning, only the spelling, hence 'Died' came out correct.
You should have seen my spelling of dyslexic before I spell checked it.

Re politics. As said we could debate forever and get nowhere, so have to agree to differ.

Greek.

Fred1new - 12 Aug 2010 19:16 - 9320 of 81564

Greek, I too was dyslexic and the trait seems to pass down through the family.

I had a daughter who when she was very small, was been suggested that she was naughty and lazy, as her sisters were able to read and write etc. before going to school.

This third daughter took a year + out after O-A levels and back packed around Australia etc. for a year.

Return to A levels, then to Uni and got a hons degree in Marine Biology, beating her sisters by getting her PHd. etc before them.

Now back in Uni. doing further Bio formatics or something like that as she switched out of research in genetics, into programming after about 5years..

Dhe still has blind spots in spelling etc. (and with me) but thank god for computers, it released her to be able to do what she wanted.

Even now if I have anything important to write (not very often, about once every five years) I still have my wife check my attempts for grammar and spelling errors.

Strange disorder, covers many permutations and different disorders and only in recent years have I been able to understand and find ways around some of the problems.

As you have kids, check their writing, as one of the things I use to try and do was cover mistakes by having appalling writing. (It never worked, but the strange thing was, even though I could do maths and physics and played chess for school from the second year, I often got zero for English, languages and the other art subjects, nobody asked why.

I eventually found acceptable dodges to get around some of the difficulties.

The condition if recognised can be remedied to a certain degree.

Haystack - 12 Aug 2010 23:44 - 9321 of 81564

You can just sense the frustration of the socialists when they have to accept Conservative policies. It does your heart good just to see them squirm.

This_is_me - 13 Aug 2010 00:10 - 9322 of 81564

It is just a pity that they left our country in such a mess. Mind you a lot of conservative voters did exactly the same - borrowed money from their future to spend on things that they did not need and could not afford.

Haystack - 13 Aug 2010 00:37 - 9323 of 81564

True and the Socialist MPs just got ther goodies by fiddling their expenses.

greekman - 13 Aug 2010 07:34 - 9324 of 81564

Fred,

I know from family history, that Dyslexia is hereditary.
My dad to me and me to my son.
My son really struggled at school, and in those days teachers would often give up on such pupils, as like you say they often put dyslexia down to pure idleness/low intelligence. Then came computers and they called myself and my wife in and told us they were really worried he would find simple computer skills impossible.
After obtaining a degree in IT he now works in that industry, testing software among other areas.
Anything to do with technology, he takes to like fish to water.

Most dyslexics have a high IQ.
Not bragging, but I am a member of Mensa. Most people think that such, means you are very clever. In reality all it means is that you are capable of being clever.
My big problem is I have an appalling memory (except for the past when I can remember details almost in photographic mode) which means I can pick something up very quickly, then I forget it almost as fast.
Now if only my memory was as sharp as my mind!
Dyslexia is strange.
I am word dyslexic, but when it comes to maths, I can see figures in my head, so when it comes to simple maths, addition, subtraction etc, often I don't have to work the answer out, it just comes as a picture in my head, whereas words come as a jumble of letter.
People sometimes are puzzled as to how I can spell the most simple words wrongly time and again, and yet, I sometimes find it hard to understand how they have to work out simple maths.

Fred1new - 13 Aug 2010 09:52 - 9325 of 81564

Interesting area and multifaceted.

Interesting watching grandchildren and the memory and retentive processes as part of intelligence.

I have always had a problem with recalling names of people and objects, but other details of people other processes remain embedded.

A few days ago, my eight year old grandson guided me to the Dunkerque ferry, at night from further down the coast by reading the map and picking uo the relevant turning from the "crazy" road signs.

Without him, I would have needed a white stick.

Interesting, when playing chess with him is following his eye movements when he considers his next move.

Fred1new - 13 Aug 2010 10:00 - 9326 of 81564

PS,

Not sure that most dyslexics have high IQ.

I think their thought processing may be slightly different, until they find suitable models to solve problems.

I "think?" a high proportion of delinquents and long term recidivists, who are contained in our prisons have forms of dyslexia.

Many of those are not too bright.

mnamreh - 13 Aug 2010 10:09 - 9327 of 81564

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greekman - 13 Aug 2010 10:25 - 9328 of 81564

Fred,

Your right. Meant to say many re IQ not most.
As to different thought processes, again I agree. I usually come to mathematical answers in a method that my teachers, found difficult to understand.
A psychological test also found that I tend to approach such matters from a none logical view.
Many people fail to see my logic in several areas, which to me makes sense.
In fact my grown up children still suspect I might be part alien.

Mnamreh,

I have tried it re words and also numbers. I found little difficulty, although when it came to pictures/larger shapes, I had some trouble.
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