Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

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Robert A. Hall is the actor who plays the coroner on CSI if you watch that show.

"I'm 63 and I Tired"
by Robert A. Hall


I'm 63. Except for one semester in college when jobs were scarce and a six-month period when I was between jobs, but job-hunting every day, I've worked, hard, since I was 18. Despite some health challenges, I still put in 50-hour weeks, and haven't called in sick in seven or eight years. I make a good salary, but I didn't inherit my job or my income, and I worked to get where I am. Given the economy, there's no retirement in sight, and I'm tired. Very tired.

I'm tired of being told that I have to "spread the wealth" to people who don't have my work ethic. I'm tired of being told the government will take the money I earned, by force if necessary, and give it to people too lazy to earn it.

I'm tired of being told that I have to pay more taxes to "keep people in their homes." Sure, if they lost their jobs or got sick, I'm willing to help. But if they bought McMansions at three times the price of our paid-off, $250,000 condo, on one-third of my salary, then let the left-wing Congress-critters who passed Fannie and Freddie and the Community Reinvestment Act that created the bubble help them with their own money.

I'm tired of being told how bad America is by left-wing millionaires like Michael Moore, George Soros and Hollywood Entertainers who live in luxury because of the opportunities America offers. In thirty years, if they get their way, the United States will have the economy of Zimbabwe, the freedom of the press of China, the crime and violence of Mexico, the tolerance for Christian people of Iran, and the freedom of speech of Venezuela.

I'm tired of being told that Islam is a "Religion of Peace," when every day I can read dozens of stories of Muslim men killing their sisters, wives and daughters for their family "honor"; of Muslims rioting over some slight offense; of Muslims murdering Christian and Jews because they aren't "believers"; of Muslims burning schools for girls; of Muslims stoning teenage rape victims to death for "adultery"; of Muslims mutilating the genitals of little girls; all in the name of Allah, because the Qur'an and Shari'a law tells them to.

I'm tired of being told that "race doesn't matter" in the post-racial world of Obama, when it's all that matters in affirmative action jobs, lower college admission and graduation standards for minorities (harming them the most), government contract set-asides, tolerance for the ghetto culture of violence and fatherless children that hurts minorities more than anyone, and in the appointment of U.S. Senators from Illinois.

I'm tired of being told that out of "tolerance for other cultures" we must let Saudi Arabia use our oil money to fund mosques and mandrassa Islamic schools to preach hate in America, while no American group is allowed to fund a church, synagogue or religious school in Saudi Arabia to teach love and tolerance.

I'm tired of being told I must lower my living standard to fight global warming, which no one is allowed to debate. My wife and I live in a two-bedroom apartment and carpool together five miles to our jobs. We also own a three-bedroom condo where our daughter and granddaughter live. Our carbon footprint is about 5% of Al Gore's, and if you're greener than Gore, you're green enough.

I'm tired of being told that drug addicts have a disease, and I must help support and treat them, and pay for the damage they do. Did a giant germ rush out of a dark alley, grab them, and stuff white powder up their noses while they tried to fight it off? I don't think Gay people choose to be Gay, but I damn sure think druggies chose to take drugs. And I'm tired of harassment from cool people treating me like a freak when I tell them I never tried marijuana.

I'm tired of illegal aliens being called "undocumented workers," especially the ones who aren't working, but are living on welfare or crime. What's next? Calling drug dealers, "Undocumented Pharmacists"? And, no, I'm not against Hispanics. Most of them are Catholic, and it's been a few hundred years since Catholics wanted to kill me for my religion. I'm willing to fast track for citizenship any Hispanic person, who can speak English, doesn't have a criminal record and who is self-supporting without family on welfare, or who serves honorably for three years in our military.... Those are the citizens we need.

I'm tired of hearing wealthy athletes, entertainers and politicians of both parties talking about innocent mistakes, stupid mistakes or youthful mistakes, when we all know they think their only mistake was getting caught. I'm tired of people with a sense of entitlement, rich or poor.

Speaking of poor, I'm tired of hearing people with air-conditioned homes, color TVs and two cars called poor. The majority of Americans didn't have that in 1970, but we didn't know we were "poor." The poverty pimps have to keep changing the definition of poor to keep the dollars flowing.

I'm real tired of people who don't take responsibility for their lives and actions. I'm tired of hearing them blame the government, or discrimination or big-whatever for their problems.

Yes, I'm d--- tired. But I'm also glad to be 63. Because, mostly, I'm not going to have to see the world these people are making. I'm just sorry for my granddaughter..

Robert A. Hall is a Marine Vietnam veteran who served five terms in the Massachusetts State Senate.

There is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on!
This is your chance to make a difference.

Is he tired of America making a ball's up of every war they have fought , defeated in Vietnam by a army of peasants , defeated by a bunch of war lord's in Somali , retreating from Iraq and Afganistan and then telling us it as made the world a safer place. sorry they did invade Grenada illegally and won, what for I can't remember.

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Osborne interests me this weekend.

Dole claimers, who claim more than their correct their proper allowances, are labelled immoral and to be prosecuted and fined and prosecuted. (How they pay those fines will be interesting.)

(Suppose they can do a little breaking and entry.)


While many MPs made false massive false allowance claims keep their job and appear to walk away Scot free.


I wonder if those caught do Tax Evasion will end up in clink.

Probably, many will migrate.

(The level fields of Eton are more and more apparent, the morality even more interesting.)

I always thought one of my main responsibilities towards myself and my family is to work towards maximising my own income and minimising my own expenditure.

I see others doing the same.

Some use tax evasion. Some use tax avoidance. Some use 'professionally thought up methods'. Some use methods which are just gutterally basic.

I see our MPs in action. I see world leaders in action. I observe the likes of Philip Green, Lord Ashcroft, Robert Mugabe, Tony and Cherie Blair and others far too numerous to mention, all going about their business.

I observe all sorts of people preaching all sorts of differing moralities and false causes to us, the populace at large, and find all of this so very confusing.

So I just try to do my best to muddle through it all the best I can.

The new govenment are doing the right thing stopping all these spongers and lets not forget just how Labour were caught with their hands in the till ,also Cameron overturning some of these stupid health and safety laws is just what is needed ,lets hope Labour are dead and buried for a long time..

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Exec,

Assuming that you have the necessary talents and brought up (trained) in a reasonably supportive environment, then you have the necessary education and other requirements to organise yourself to earn enough to keep yourself and others (offspring) in a responsible way.

This attitude is similar to my own, but like you, I had the natural propensities and was given the necessary foundation and help, to develop the talents and earn a more than reasonable income.

NM,

The problem, with some current civilised societies is that, those in the poorer classes are often imprisoned in their strata, by lack of knowledge, expertise and/or supportive structures to organise and advance themselves. They may have the necessary propensities, but many will be lacking in the support systems necessary for their further their advancement.

Many of those, in the deprived strata of society recognise the advantages (financial or other), of different groups within their society and on reviewing their own set of talents and support are prepared to fall back on them.

Those talents may be their physical strengths, experience of criminality, different morality, criminal (gang) support, etc..
I would expect in the current and expected economical situation with increasing unemployment and proposed clampdown on welfare benefits will lead to an increase in criminality.

If the proposed reduction of the budget for law enforcement happens, I think social discomfort may spread over the majority of society, in ways different to what is expected by many.

I would prefer a more harmonious society than the one which seems likely by punishing a minority of false claimants.

Again, what interests me is that there is no uproar against changes in the penal system which are proposed by the Idol of the Right, Blue Ken.

I thought the blue party was the law and order party, or, perhaps, they should be called the British Tea Party. 8-)

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AVDFN have stopped people from posting charts on their message board that are not avdfn charts , seems a bit petty to me

The route to greater wealth is through the selling of assets. However, they do have to be acquired first - and they need to be of the type that ascend in value, rather than those of the opposite variety.

Many people, particularly those in the lower working classes, have yet to realise this. Thus they easily become trapped in methods of wealth acquisition which are too dependent on time. eg, hourly pay, weekly pay, annual salary

One of the most popular ways out of the poverty trap was through the 'property route'. DIY building-type skills can be used to great effect, which also added to profitabilty by substituting such work for that done by 'professionals'.

However, this route does look to be stuffed at the moment. Or does it? The best reason to buy a particular property has been and always will be, "position, position, position!" Thus buyers will always searching for such treasures and prices must surely continue to ascend.

Another popular way, and this is now greatly coming to the fore, is via the 'business route'.

Once again, it usually involves the selling of assets. eg, a speciality service or speciality goods. Such businesses may often increase in size. eg, having more than one sales outlet. And then even further on, towards the ultimate, where the product (or asset) that is being sold is actually the business (or businesses) itself (themselves) - or even groups of businesses.

Generally speaking, having made the first realisation concerning the way to wealth, the starting point is usually merely for the individual concerned to better his or her personal annual income. Having done this, then a proving point is reached and from this new base the entrepreneur can begin to move to a higher level with the business activity.

The MoneyAM web site is shared by groups of individuals, who share the common feeling that Financial Markets offer the quickest and easiest route. But with 'quick and easy' also comes high risk and volatility. Thus fortunes can be lost as well as gained.

I really still don't know what types of assets are best for individuals to buy and sell (or even sell and then cover that negative position) to increase their wealth.

But I do know about the basic secret to it all and I'm still enjoying searching for those prizes that are given to the winners.

:-)

NM.

Actually, I was thinking benignly of the support systems of the different groups of society.

I was thinking of parental support and good parenting to be more obvious and useful within the middle classes.

(The problem is that this support is sometimes introjected and is restrictive to the future development to their offspring. Often it is covertly organised for and limited to the protection of to themselves and their offspring, or advantageous to "their group, or part, of society", but lacking altruism and is at the expense of an overall coherent society.)

The "secret society" of the Masons, is another organisation open to corruption and corrupting, but I think less so than of previous periods.

Had interesting tussle with members of such a group, until I realised what bound them together. For a while I had found it puzzling, why certain individuals while individually agreeing with propositions, later banded together and voted against the same ideas.



Didn't realise initially that I was being thought of as a possible "convert", but during one "discussion" with members of that August body did mention that "rolling up my trouser leg to become a member of a secret boys' club didn't have much appeal to me", probably put them off.

Again, similar behaviour can be seen in many professional groups. Medical, Legal, and Political. (Claims made by the groups of "protecting the public", are often for self protection of their own members, and little to do with the well-being of the public.)

Stop now, or I will have to sign myself as Cynic.

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For Jimmy B and Greek

Dispatches!

If you missed it, have a look.

Interesting:

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/episode-guide/series-72/episode-1

Hi Fred,

Watched it. Must be getting calmer as I get older. Only had steam coming out of my ears a couple of times.
As has been said many times, Tax avoidance is legal, but it shows how hypocritical our rulers are when they continually spout forth about how immorally wrong it is for those who are rich to avoid paying their dues. I have nothing against capitalism, in fact I think it is the only system that can work, it is just that the rich have to be as accountable as everyone else.
I do not blame those who can legally make the system work, I would if I could, but I would not be two faced about it. It is the system itself that is wrong. And of course we know who is in charge of the system.

If we were not so over taxed from when we start work to the day after we die there wouldn't be so much avoidance, and the report's on the waste at the MOD, NHS and in the civil service doesn't help.

Aldwickk,

Totally agree. Most people are not so much annoyed about the amount of tax they pay, as to how it is wasted.
Whenever I read about waste in any area where my tax goes, especially to areas such as to pay for people with massive families, who don't work and live entirely on benefits, in big houses, with multiple bedrooms, I feel that I have worked a fair percentage of my working life to keep these parasites. Why should we get up to go to work, whilst these spongers turn over in bed and go back to sleep.
Several years ago there was a story about an illegal immigrant who had a large family. It gave the total amount that it cost to keep him and his family on benefits and the projected amount over the next ten years. The amount was over 1,000,000. Seems exaggerated, but he had lived here for around 20 years so he would only (sic) have needed to be paid around 33,000 per year for 30 years to reach that amount. This huge amount did not include any NHS cost, education for his many kids etc.
So I worked out that over my working life of 40 years all my tax did not come to the amount to keep just one family, and there are many more such examples.
No wonder most people feel sick to the stomach about where our hard earned money goes.