Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

ok Tyketto sorry, you must have been replying to Fred

ALD,


Do I understand you correctly?

Life = Nothing.

Is that your own life, members of your own family or just in general.

Aldwickk,
Yes. Inferred from greeks post.

Fred

We were talking about foreign aid , and you said these were the country's that the British had pillaged and I said what have we pillaged from Afghanistan , the answer was nothing. but now you have twisted this because you knew that you had no answer to my question.

Greekman was right about you twisting the answer when you have been found to be wrong.

Aldwickk,

You just beat me to it, re his twisting everything.
I still read at least the start of Fred's post but no longer reply as no one can win against him when a totally unconnected argument is used against whatever you say.

Aldwickk, a waste of time trying to get a straight answer from fred. He twists & turns everything and when he can twist no more he broadens the debate massively. At which point everyone gives up. May I recommend Hilarys advice:

hilary - 21 Oct 2010 15:52 - 9709 of 9765
You should know better than to argue with an idiot. They invariably drag you down to their own level and end up beating you with their years of experience.

Ald,

Re-read what you posted.

Tends to what you value.

Many describe lives being stolen and the consequences of that equates to the possible future support to their families.

That is part of the total cost of war.


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"Then the Chinese come along and say we are not interested about your human right's abuse we just want to invest in your country, ok then you can have the contract's "


It will be interesting how countries which have made contracts of this bases with China, deal with those contracts in the long term.

Ie. when their present administrations are dealt with.

But I believe many of the Oil Corporations of the West are less than honourable in the behaviour.

I don't think because one member of a family is a criminal you should punish the whole family.

(Although, there is something to be said for family responsibility and
punishment, in some "deviant" families, at sometime in a society's development.)

Interesting reference to the Sarah Palin of Moneyam.

For all you old boxing fan's Brian London aged 76.
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44752000/jpg/_44752546_london_512.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/7457725.stm&h=288&w=512&sz=27&tbnid=vNdgyJ3tjCLM0M:&tbnh=74&tbnw=131&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbrian%2Blondon&zoom=1&q=brian+london&usg=__Y-zif6CxyqIaU8xxOqHxotu-Xt4=&sa=X&ei=AcXFTN21OY_QjAef77G5BQ&ved=0CCIQ9QEwAQ

Remember seeing him taking the biggest hiding that I've ever seen anyone take in the ring at (I think) Highbury, must have been against Clay as he was then named.

Not so much a boxer but a fighter as I remember, never a dull moment when he was on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWnt4Z2Z9N0

That must be it aldo although I thought that the battering had lasted longer then that.

I watched Brian London fight several times. As has already been said, he was a fighter not a boxer. He had the heart of a lion. He was one of the old school of boxers who was sort of on the cusp era of fighters/boxers.

FRANCE


'France has neither winter nor summer nor morals. Apart from these
drawbacks it is a fine country. France has usually been governed by
prostitutes.'

Mark Twain
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'I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one
behind me.'

General George S. Patton
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'Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your
accordion.'

Norman Schwartzkopf
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'We can stand here like the French, or we can do something about it.'

Marge Simpson
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'As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.'

Jacques Chirac, President of France
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'The only time France wants us to go to war is when the German Army is
sitting in Paris sipping coffee.'

Regis Philbin
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'You know, the French remind me a little bit of an aging actress of the
1940s who was still trying to dine out on her looks but doesn't have the
face for it.'

John McCain , U.S. Senatorfrom Arizona
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'The last time the French asked for 'more proof' it came marching into
Paris under a German flag.'

David Letterman

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'Only thing worse than a Frenchman is a Frenchman who lives in Canada.'

Ted Nugent
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'War without France would be like...Well...World War II.'

Unknown
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'The favourite bumpersticker in Washington D.C. right now is one that
says 'First Iraq, then France.'

Tom Brokaw
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'What do you expect from a culture and a nation that exerted more of its
national will fighting against Disney World and Big Macs than the Nazis?'

Dennis Miller
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'It is important to remember that the French have always been there when
they needed us.'

Alan Kent
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'They've taken their own precautions against al-Qaida. To prepare for an
attack, each Frenchman is urged to keep duct tape, a white flag, and a
three-day supply of mistresses in the house.'

Argus Hamilton
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'Somebody was telling me about the French Army rifle that was being
advertised on eBay the other day--the description was, 'Never shot.
Dropped once.''

Rep. Roy Blunt, MO
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'The French will only agree to go to war when we've proven we've found
truffles in Iraq.'

Dennis Miller
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Q. What did the mayor of Paris say to the German Army as they entered
the city in WWII?

A. Table for 100,000 m'sieur?
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'Do you know how many Frenchmen it takes to defend Paris?

Who knows ? It's never been tried.'

Rep. R. Blount, MO
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'Do you know it only took Germany three days to conquer France in WWII?

And that's because it was raining.'

John Xereas, Manager, DCImprov
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French Ban Fireworks at Euro Disney

(AP), Paris , March5, 2003

The French Government announced today that it is imposing a ban on the use
of fireworks at EuroDisney.

The decision comes the day after a nightly fireworks display at the park,
located just 30 miles outside of Paris caused the soldiers at a nearby French
Army garrison to surrender to a group of Czech tourists.

Whilst a lot of the above could be looked at as a general view of France, I do have some sympathy with a country that was occupied. It must have been very difficult for those very brave Frenchmen and Women that fought the Nazis whilst the continual threat of torture/death was present for themselves and families.
There are many an Englishman/Woman who owe their lives to the bravery of some French People who bravely risked everything to assist in returning them back to England. Would I have risked my family to help in those circumstances, I am not sure.
Not saying the above post did not make me laugh, just thought someone should mention the other side of the augment.
Must add, I have no problem with the French putting themselves first, which is something we should do far more off (do we ever). The problem I have with the French is that that don't give a damn about anyone else.

TIM,

Which party are you voting for next election. The BNP, UKIP, or the tory tea-leaf party?

" I have no problem with the French putting themselves first, which is something we should do far more off (do we ever)."

Not since Churchill and Thatcher.

There are some very witty quotes there and two unwitty ones 1.Mark Twain 2.Tom Brokaw

What's The French Connection going to say about that post ?

I would think it is what he might expect from the hooligan element of English high society. 8-)











8-)

Fred

I see that you think Labour isn't worth a mention , do you think they are now a 4th rate party.

Ald.

No, but I wouldn't think they will gain from having TIM's vote or membership.

The market is less than warm to the "new" bunch in government, who seem to be concentrating on retreating from any proposal made within days.

Clear well thought out.policies.

They must be on Coke.