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Falklands Oil and Gas (FOGL) (FOGL)     

Proselenes - 13 Aug 2011 04:53

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blackdown - 23 Jul 2012 07:40 - 979 of 2393

And if they do find anything, it will take 3-5 years before any production gets underway.

Balerboy - 23 Jul 2012 07:46 - 980 of 2393

Somebody tell RF that.,.

cynic - 23 Jul 2012 08:04 - 981 of 2393

BD - the production bit is relatively unimportant ..... it's FINDING commercial quantities that will trigger ..... IF commercial quantities are found by FOGL, then the whole dynamic of the FI region changes, together with that of all companies involved.

blackdown - 23 Jul 2012 08:06 - 982 of 2393

Fair enough, but the value of the finds is related to the amount of oil and the cost/barrel of extraction.

cynic - 23 Jul 2012 08:16 - 983 of 2393

yeeeees, but a good find will change general sentiment for the region dramatically, and specifically the perceived value of any company that actually has the stuff - e.g. FOGL and RKH, always supposing ......

greekman - 23 Jul 2012 08:45 - 984 of 2393

Hi Blackdown,

Fully agree with Cynic on this (unusual for me).
If you are going to invest in any oil explorer, the time from find to production is just about the only thing you can have a decent idea of time scale.
If the intention is to hold long, till production, that waiting period should always be part of the investment calculations.
I do though, agree with your last comment,"But the value of the finds is related to the amount of oil and the cost/barrel of extraction".

blackdown - 23 Jul 2012 09:11 - 985 of 2393

I am sure that another significant find off the FIs will change things. However, wild estimates of sp (mainly from Pro) of £30+/share post drill are absurd.

cynic - 23 Jul 2012 10:53 - 986 of 2393

of course they are - totally preposterous; divide by 10

aldwickk - 23 Jul 2012 11:17 - 987 of 2393

prospective resource of 4.7 billion

cynic - 23 Jul 2012 11:31 - 988 of 2393

which means "finger x-ed chaps; let's hope we manage to find even a can-full"

Gerponville18 - 23 Jul 2012 11:32 - 989 of 2393

Could I be so bold and ask a question?

Not related to any share in particular........Why is it, when there are more "Buyers than Sellers" a share price goes down in value....strange to me....That's not hard!

Back to the Falklands......I agree with aldwick........Prospective resource of 4.7 billion.

Proselenes - 23 Jul 2012 11:45 - 990 of 2393

Prospective Resources are the P50 recoverable barrels from the OIP.

OIP is circa 14 to 16 billion barrels potentially, up to 25 billion, down to 0 billion.

4.7 Billion barrels recoverable is one hell of a target to be drilling, far bigger than Shaiken which whilst it might be 15 billion in size the recovery rate for oil will be much lower (and so the prospective resources figure for Shaiken is lower that what might be at Loligo, with some good luck and a fair wind).

coeliac1 - 23 Jul 2012 14:02 - 991 of 2393

Hi Pro I agree that the prospects are fantastic. But like the North Sea we might need a few drills to hit the spot. What we all do need in these markets is a bit of luck.

required field - 23 Jul 2012 14:26 - 992 of 2393

When they drilled Brent for the first time : the riggers thought that the oil a tfirst was a leak from the rig itself until it dawned on them that they had hit it big......there is something big that shows in FOGL's seismic.....I reckon the sp will move very sharply as we get deeper and deeper ....

cynic - 23 Jul 2012 14:34 - 993 of 2393

seismic means bugger all ..... do you think DES or BOR or anyone else drills just by sticking a pin the map?

blackdown - 23 Jul 2012 14:36 - 994 of 2393

The sp may move very sharply, but this may be downwards.

Pessimism Sauce - 23 Jul 2012 16:05 - 995 of 2393

Gerponville

I think the answer to your query is the size of the sellers and buyers. You could have 1000 buyers at £10 each and 1 seller at £100,000 - Its the value of the transactions which count.

I'm getting so sick of people banging on about the 4.7 billion potential barrels of oil. Yes. Fantastic. Lets hope it hits oil. Now please stop repeating something everyone has already read. This is a speculative investment, nothing is certain. Sit tight and wait for the drill.

Cynic, prospecting is used by all exploration companies prior to the drill. FOGL seismic data is extra special because of the huge potential they have found. It is a bit out of the ordinary. BOR had nothing like it.

PS i'm seeing Pro get battered on other forums for his ramping. Amusing.

cynic - 23 Jul 2012 16:27 - 996 of 2393

i shall be delighted if FOGL find something useful as i remain a modest holder and also of RKH, but it is a cautious postion for very good reason

greekman - 23 Jul 2012 16:37 - 997 of 2393

Hi Gerponville,

It also depends on what prices, bought and sold.
We often see a share that has had more buys by value than sells with the sp going down, and visa versa.
Its purely that buyers see the falling price as value.
To get the longer value view, you need to look at the volume values over more than a few days. At the moment, the share value of most stocks is not so much a reflection of the company, or what value investors feel it is worth, but mainly down to 'fear' of where we are heading, due to the thousand or so problems that the world appears to be stacking up.
No matter how positive I feel at the moment about Fogl, I like Cynic am being cautious.

No doubt if Fogl comes in 'very big' there will be many spouting how 'he who dares etc', and they will be right, but I like to sleep at night, knowing that all my eggs are not riding in a few baskets.

Gerponville18 - 23 Jul 2012 16:38 - 998 of 2393

Thank you for the explanation Pessimism Sauce (makes sense now).........I can't help being thick.........It's the engineer in my blood.........Obviously not stocks and shares.

I promise not to mention 4.7 billion potential barrels of oil.......I do hope FOGL find oil though!
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