goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
aldwickk
- 08 Nov 2010 14:32
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Haystack
- 08 Nov 2010 14:32
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And conned us out of the promised referendum by pretending that the new treaty was different from the previous failed one.
Labout have consistently been liars.
mnamreh
- 08 Nov 2010 14:45
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Fred1new
- 08 Nov 2010 15:21
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Hays.
I noticed Cameron in his little jaunt in the last week, or so, dodge the referendum.
Also notice he has avoid the referendum he "promised" before the election.
Was that a typical tory and lib pledge and doesn't matter.
It is all right to pose, but the tories need a man of action.
I suppose there must be something to be said for an inconsistent a Liar or are they words of a sham PR man?
I suggest they bring back the the Quiet Man again.
Was he called Dunky, or something like that.
But please don't resurrect the ghost of Maggie. She's haunted enough tory party conferences since she was chuck out of office, by some of the present tory cabinet.
Perhaps, because she didn't go to Eton.
Not sure who makes me cringe the most. Maggie or The Witty Woman Anne Widdecome. (The widow maker.)
Fred1new
- 08 Nov 2010 15:24
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NM.
Do you mean Cameron is a "here to today, gone tomorrow Prime Minister" ?
Sad when he had just had the curtains changed!
mnamreh
- 08 Nov 2010 15:30
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Haystack
- 08 Nov 2010 15:32
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Fref
Cameron cannot have a referendum now as the treaty was passed into law due to the lies from Gordon Brown.
Fred1new
- 08 Nov 2010 15:36
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Hays,
I know you have copies of the various tory manifestos to hand and can remember some the pre-election rants about having a new referendums about the EC.
Or were they for the Cash and little Englanders faction of the old con party?
8-)
mnamreh
- 08 Nov 2010 15:37
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greekman
- 08 Nov 2010 16:43
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Haystack,
I agree that having a referendum now is pointless for the reason you have given. But if Cameron allows any further erosion of our laws into EU hands, then he will have broken an election pledge that would cost him dearly. Now if he held a referendum on getting out, that would be a different matter.
As to someone posting about Edward Heath getting us into this mess, by signing up to the what was then called the common market, what utter nonsense. I was never a fan of Heath, in fact I could not stand the man, but to blame him for joining what is a completely different animal than the EU is ridiculous. I like many voted in favor of the common market, because it was just that. A market place with the main intention of reducing trade barriers. It also did not restrict us from trading with the rest of the world, which of course we still can, but the EU actually makes such trading far more difficult than it needs be,. All for its own agenda of course.
Fred1new
- 08 Nov 2010 17:30
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Greek.
"All for its own agenda of course. "
But what agenda are the "Little Englanders" shouting about?
aldwickk
- 08 Nov 2010 18:21
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Let Fred remind us of what public school Blair went to.
Fred1new
- 08 Nov 2010 18:32
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AID
DYOH.
But as a help try something beginning with F.
Greek,
The one thing which I admired Heath for, was that he was an ardent Europhile. As was Churchill.
They did have foresight.
aldwickk
- 08 Nov 2010 18:42
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As was Churchill ? ....... Churchill never trusted the French
Haystack
- 08 Nov 2010 18:45
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Fred
And a few other Labour MPs, plus Nick Clegg.
Diane Abbot sent her son to City of London Public School near St Pauls.
Tony Benn went to Westminster
15 per cent of Labour MPs went to private schools. This compares to just seven per cent of people in the country at large.
Haystack
- 08 Nov 2010 18:46
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I like what Churhill said about De Gaulle: -
" He was the perfect gentleman - He never upset anyone by accident"
aldwickk
- 08 Nov 2010 18:50
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Let's see how fred will twist his reply or ignore it by changing the subject by replying with another question.
Fred1new
- 08 Nov 2010 20:37
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Why not.
What is wrong with those schools?
Perhaps, it is just the problems with some of the products they turn out.
Some schools just seem to have too many Friday afternoons.
Fred1new
- 08 Nov 2010 20:44
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Shouldn't you boys be in bed by now, or have you been given Cameron's latest brilliant ideas for escaping responsibility.
Perhaps your preps are to cost out the implementation of the latest reforms.
Risible!
I can see why he is going to China. I hope they keep him there.
By the way, is he going to Kowtow all the way to the restaurant.
This_is_me
- 08 Nov 2010 22:08
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David Noakes sounds like a diligent intelligent researcher and I am grateful to him for drawing to our attention the machinations of the Evil Empire.