Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Hays,

To me, you sound jealous.

What about a nice holiday in Cayman Isle or having your mortgage paid down at tax payers expense?

Perhap, you would like a Duck House?

I had a duck house , the wooded beam's were to low.

Yes, that would be very nice. If you mean would I put my money in a tax haven if I had enough to benefit that way then the answer is a definite yes. What about claiming expenses that do not exist like the Labour MPs found guilty of fraud?

It seems to me the most corrupt societies are where the "leaders" and "political elite" are morally corrupt.

The public seemingly are trying to emulate the leadership, using the "tools", which are allotted to them.

A government, which is seen to renege on their promises can hardly have the moral high ground.

The opinion of the Labour government and some of its ministers was low, but judging by public reaction the stature of this present government is even lower.

Even the press seems to have given up on them.


(I blame them for the present market. Any body going down, down, down. 8-))

I think the present government are getting quite a good press.

What a day only one blue in my lot - time to open a bottle

Haystack,

Had to post. If it was me, I would shop the bloody lot of them to HMRC. Why should we pay to support that lot of spongers.

Hays.

If the press in good, God help them when it is bad.

Oak,

Make it a good bottle and sit back and smile, I have seen worse.

Therein lies the problem greek. It would be too much like hard work for HMRC to get to the bottom of it all in that situation so they will ignore it and pick up the straightforward case of the person who has underpaid tax due to HMRC's error.

Its a funny old world.

edit - word added but you understood. I have seen enough to warrant my cynicism.

Rawdm999,

Blimey, did not know anyone could be as cynical as me.
Your probably right, but I would shop them anyway.

I see the innumerate postman has resigned from the shadow government. He has been replaced with one of Gordon Brown's closest aids - Ed Balls. They certainly can choose them in the Labour party.

Hays,

For a person, from a very poor family, who left school at 16years of age, later to become a minister in a government and hold a multiple other public position during his career, for me is tremendous achievement.

When you are a little more dried up, bitter and shrivelled than you are now, and look back on your own career, I have doubt that it will be as successful as his.



Also, I doubt that you will have done anything of much value for others or those around you.

I hope that he can deal with and overcome any personal problems he may have.

I wish him a long and happy retirement.

That sounds like a fairy story until you realise what a useless minister he was. How could anyone make someone shadow chancellor without even maths 'o' level. I have never noticed any sign that did anything of any use or value in his career. Just staying a Labour MP until they give you various posts is not worthy of note. He is a terrible speakerand shows signs of having a poor mind. Obviously an ideal candidate to be a Labour minister.

Your evaluation system for ability seems wanting.

It is not that difficult to be an MP, especially a Labour MP. He came from the union route. He might have been fine had he stayed as an MP. He got promoted above his level of competence. A common problem among Labour MPs.

Johnson was so incompetent, he didn't even notice his personal bodyguard was 'guarding' the wrong body, namely that of his own wife.

As in:

Alan Johnson quit frontline politics yesterday after discovering his wife had had an affair with his police protection officer.

Hours after the shock resignation, Scotland Yard launched disciplinary proceedings against Paul Rice, who had guarded Mr Johnson from potential terror attacks when he was Home Secretary.

I think THE brown stains degree was in history.
Thank goodness he now is.
Whilst still in colledge, he disseninated a phamphlet,
"How to live off the state"
Us- did well didn't he.

Over to you Fred , let's see you duck & dive and twist and turn your way out of answering the above reply's

AId,

You seem not to have not ducked those wooden beams enough.

Hays,

Check Churchill's wife's relationship.

I believe many of the partners claimed to be Churchill's friends.

Perhaps, they were just doing a quick service.

Also, check back to many previous cabinet ministers who came into politics through the unions.

Similar can be seem in those who came up through industry.

Also, I would check your own within your own family members and see if any of them have strayed.

I was right , skip the answer and go back over 60 year's in history .

No reply to the questions .

" shadow chancellor without even maths 'o' level. I have never noticed any sign that did anything of any use or value in his career. Just staying a Labour MP until they give you various posts is not worthy of note. He is a terrible speakerand shows signs of having a poor mind. "


" Whilst still in colledge, he disseninated a phamphlet,
"How to live off the state"
Us- did well didn't he.