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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Fred1new - 14 Sep 2011 10:15 - 12261 of 81564

I would like to congratulate the tory coalition government on the ongoing mismanagement of the economy.

( I thought the previous problems were nothing to do with external factors such as economic factors in other countries.)

Unemployment up, and the figures distorted by many of those who are now in part time employment rather than full time jobs.

The con-dem-nation coalition are in control.

I would suggest this cabinet of failures stand down.

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Notice unemployment figures for 17-24 year old group.

If there is further down turn in the GDP, as can be expected, from the present failing government policies, then it may be a very turbulent Autumn and Spring.

I wouldn't like to be on the front line.






Haystack - 14 Sep 2011 10:54 - 12262 of 81564

I expect unemployment to increase as policies take effect. It is interesting to see that the figures show falls in public sector jobs and rises in private sector. That is the shift that needs to take place. The process will be slow though.

Fred1new - 14 Sep 2011 11:19 - 12263 of 81564

The private sector were supposed by the "elite" to replace the jobs lost in the public sector. Is it doing so?

Interesting that QE is out, No plan B, but Clegg is going to spend money.


Bullocks comes into my mind.

Why aren't Cameron and Georgie Boy leading the argument. Or have thy both gone on holidays again?

Haystack - 14 Sep 2011 12:04 - 12264 of 81564

Increasing jobs in the private sector is always going to be a lagging indicator for the economy. It takes time for job losses in the public sector to be taken up by new jobs in the private sector. A gap of around a year is probably about right. The present government are using 'supply side' policies to rearrange the economy.

Magaret Thatcher used supply side policies to grow the economy and very successful it was. Ronald Regan used the same process and his version of it became known as Reganomics.

mnamreh - 14 Sep 2011 12:07 - 12265 of 81564

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Haystack - 14 Sep 2011 12:10 - 12266 of 81564

I wish it was today!

mnamreh - 14 Sep 2011 12:26 - 12267 of 81564

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Fred1new - 14 Sep 2011 13:54 - 12268 of 81564

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Magaret Thatcher used supply side policies to grow the economy and very successful it was. Ronald Regan used the same process and his version of it became known as Reganomics.


I remember that period of Mad Cow disease and " Reganmania".

Both parties deluded and as indirectly responsible, as Blair and Bush are, for the current state of International Politics and subsequent economic problems.

Also, lead to many of the social problems which subsequent governments have do deal with now.

No foresight and short term planning only.

Forgot they had "strong government".

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Hays,

Which sector of society is the Con/dems going to bail out with their proposed financial bribes?


greekman - 14 Sep 2011 17:17 - 12269 of 81564

Anno Domini!

Whats a Pizza company got to do with anything.

mnamreh - 14 Sep 2011 17:23 - 12270 of 81564

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skinny - 15 Sep 2011 07:08 - 12271 of 81564

10' finger nails - are you sure! New world record-breakers debut in Guinness book 2012

goldfinger - 15 Sep 2011 09:47 - 12272 of 81564

Coalition just months left before break up, who first them or Eurozone?.

Haystack - 15 Sep 2011 10:48 - 12273 of 81564

"More than half of those accused over the riots were aged 20 or under."

Which party was in government while these young people were growing up; The Labour Party

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14926322

One in four riot suspects had 10 previous offences

One in four people charged over the riots in English cities last month had committed more than 10 previous offences, figures show.

Three-quarters had a previous caution or conviction, Ministry of Justice (MoJ) figures show, and those with a criminal record averaged 15 offences.

More than half of those accused over the riots were aged 20 or under.

ExecLine - 15 Sep 2011 11:21 - 12274 of 81564

Whaaaaaahay!!! Whaaaaaahoooo!!!

From: http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/....

Study shows chocolate may be as good for you as a session in the gym

Sep 15 2011 Mike Swain

DARK chocolate could potentially be as good for your health as exercise, scientists have revealed.

They have found it contains an ingredient which boosts muscles in a similar way to using a running machine in the gym.

Researchers studied the effects of the compound epicatechin on mice in the lab and found that it appeared to boost energy in muscles, allowing them to exercise for longer periods.

The effect is similar to training in the gym.

Mice given doses of epicatechin were able to exercise just as well as those put on a treadmill every day - and now scientists want to see if it works in people.

The improvements in muscle performance were linked with increases in mitochondria - the 'powerhouses' of cells, research published in The Journal of Physiology found.

Dr Moh Malek, of Wayne State University, Detroit, Michigan, who led the study, said: "Mitochondria produce energy, which is used by the cells in the body.

"More mitochondria means more energy is produced and more work can be performed.

"Aerobic exercise, such as running or cycling, is known to up the number of mitochondria in muscle cells.

"Our study has found that epicatechin seems to bring about the same response - particularly in the heart and skeletal muscles."

For the experiment specific form of epicatechin, which is found in cocoa, was given to the mice twice a day for 15 days.

At the same time, the mice underwent 30 minutes of treadmill training each day.

The researchers found that the group of mice fed only epicatechin had the same performance as those on the treadmill.

In addition to gaining a better understanding of how epicatechin improves muscle performance, the team hope that their findings could eventually help counteract age-related muscle wasting.

Dr Malek added: "Mitochondria decreases in skeletal muscle as we age and this affects us physically in terms of muscle energy production and endurance.

"Applying what we now know about epicatechin's ability to boost mitochondria numbers may provide an approach to reduce the effects of muscle ageing."

Researchers used 12-month-old mice - the equivalent of middleaged humans - giving one group epicatechin and one epicatechin and treadmill training, while the other group ran on the treadmill.

Dr Malek added: "Again, we found that the group receiving the epicatechin only, had significantly better muscle performance and took longer to tire than the group that only exercised.

"The group that was given epicatechin and also exercised showed an even greater improvement - so it appears epicatechin treatment combined with exercise could be a viable means to offset muscle ageing."

Unfortunately it is too early to say whether humans could get the same benefits as the mice.

Dr Malek said: "It is fascinating to identify how natural products can mimic and enhance the effects of exercise.

"At the moment it would be a leap of faith to say the same effects would be seen in humans."
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So there we are then. I suspected this was true all along and now it has technically been proved to be correct.

The one I am currently eating is 'Choceur's Dark Chocolate With Whole Hazelnuts' from Aldi at 99p per bar. I think it is fantastic and have great trouble limiting myself to just about 1/4 of a bar per day:

ExecLine - 15 Sep 2011 14:32 - 12275 of 81564

For 'Strictly' fans:

First rehearsals

aldwickk - 15 Sep 2011 15:55 - 12276 of 81564

Tesco's 85% dark organic chocolate

Fred1new - 15 Sep 2011 16:44 - 12277 of 81564

Hays,

"More than half of those accused over the riots were aged 20 or under."
Which party was in government while these young people were growing up; The Labour Party


Reflecting back, the main causes of many of the rapid development today's problems can be seen to have taken root in the Thatcher period. Thatcher and fellow members of her governments preaching and pedalling the ideology and moral values, of "there is no such thing as society", with the development of the driving emphasis based on personal greed, i.e. grab for yourself, and hang everybody else being lauded by her and fellow tories.

(Corrupt interpretation of the survival of the fittest theory, with appeal to the most simple minded and greedy.)

That amongst other policies such as the rapid destruction of old heavy industries especially the mining industries and focussing on the service industries (financial services) as a solution to the countrys problems, has led to the breaking down and fragmentation of family units and loss of communities and other social units.

The reliance of old and sometimes antiquated industries needed reviewing and evolution from the reliance of them was necessary, but not by revolution but by evolution with respect for those dependant on those industries.

The disregard and/or contempt of those groups has subsequently been reflected back at society by many of those who feel themselves disenfranchised.

Upheavals, in those communities have brought about fragmentations of families and family coherence with loss of social responsibility and morality,
(Similar to what they feel they have been exposed to, by the governing bodies.)

The present ruling elite is being seen as Thatchers children, but perhaps those who see themselves as disenfranchised are coordinating their responses.
Interesting to see the more mutually orientated resolutions of the Unions alongside a fragmenting coalition government.

mnamreh - 15 Sep 2011 18:34 - 12278 of 81564

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Haystack - 15 Sep 2011 19:02 - 12279 of 81564

Well the last Labour government did little to improve life for these young people as they grwew up during that period and turned to crime. Another statistic is that 75% of the rioters had some previous conviction or caution. It was just existing criminals doing a bit more of that they are good at.

Fred1new - 15 Sep 2011 19:41 - 12280 of 81564

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