Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Martini,

Try engaging the few remaining grey cells which you may have and use them to think for yourself.

Briefly, when sailing in choppy seas I usually prefer to staying on the ship rather than clambering into a rowing boat and hoisting a distress flag and hoping to be picked up.

So you don’t know. Pompous fool.

Tut, tut.

iturama - 10 Jan 2019 11:20 - 11386 of 11395

'Amazing how people that don't live in this country are so concerned about our welfare.'

No seriously, I'll be delighted to watch you and the other rabid gammon rot on the compost heap you've made for yourselves.

But, I am concerned about the welfare of your fellow Brits, particularly those who have chosen to live and work in other EU countries, free of prejudice and British xenophobia. I know people who are seriously concerned about their future post-Brexit - to the extent that it's making them ill. They're at the mercy of an incompetent government that shows a total lack of compassion, who think it's acceptable to use their people as pawns, using ridiculous scaremongering to get a crap deal through, and being egged on by extremists within their own party who only care about themselves, and blame others for their own miserable lives. I'm sure those same people will be affronted when they find their fortnight in Benidorm costs more!

Fortunately, most of those Brits living and working in other EU countries still have a vote.

ford are cutting jobs because of loss of sales in CHINA
nothing at all to do with brexit

That means we can export more to China to cover up what we may lose in exports to the EU?

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CNG,

Do you mean Roast Pork on Sauerkraut?

That'd be a disservice to sauerkraut, Fred.

Gammon and Lard; new BBC retro cookery programme presented by Redman and BeerD.

The new caring Hilary. Quite touching. Usually it's I'm alright Jack so bugger the others. With the new found persona you should join the Tory party because the other lot only benefit from people being poor and uneducated. Or in the case of some here, just plain thick.

Anyone edited anything today ?

It.

Check your personal and country's history.

A bit sad about Landrover...but I find their models fantastic !....(and the ones in the showrooms as well (;))…)(I own one of the smaller/cheaper cars of course)…..I prefer landrovers to mercs however prestigious they are !.... Landrovers are very well made and practical.....servicing is essential of course.....I'm even considering a replacement.....I hope they don't overprice their new defender...and they should/must bring in a Baby Defender ...a sort of like a Fiat Panda 4/4 but better made ...entry model less than fifteen grand : electric/petrol/hybrid (options can be added)...to me It's essential for the well-being of the company...could be a market bestseller...!

Governments have been pushing diesel for decades....now it's petrol …..and not even that....electric vehicles are coming but they are at the moment only good for urban areas...not for long distances.....London-Birmingham : you are going to struggle.....hydrogen is making enormous advances quietly....so land rover designers had better get their designs ready quickly...!..

a free vote in parliament is now mooted
should that happen, i wonder how things would pan out
would MP's vote per their electorate's wishes or per their personal preference?
imo, it should be per their electorate's wishes, but i suspect many would not - eg dominic grieve

Most Mp’s will vote in general for No1 their own personal self interest 2 their families 3 their friends. Last of all their constituents.

Their very fluid consciences!

Forgot some of them are tories.

8-)

PS.

Suggested Free Vote weeks ago.

For once I agree with Stan


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i agree stan .... we have seen self-interest already ruling

"We are leaving the EU" But:

1) Sticking to the Customs Regulations
2) Sticking to the trade tariffs
3) Sticking to the Laws
4) sticking to Free Movement in and out of the EU


Etc. Ect.

But the government is governing when it can get up off its knees to the unions and beg standing up!