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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

iturama - 10 Jan 2019 15:41 - 11401 of 12628

The new caring Hilary. Quite touching. Usually it's I'm alright Jack so bugger the others. With the new found persona you should join the Tory party because the other lot only benefit from people being poor and uneducated. Or in the case of some here, just plain thick.

Dil - 10 Jan 2019 16:13 - 11402 of 12628

Anyone edited anything today ?

Fred1new - 10 Jan 2019 16:14 - 11403 of 12628

It.

Check your personal and country's history.

required field - 10 Jan 2019 18:15 - 11404 of 12628

A bit sad about Landrover...but I find their models fantastic !....(and the ones in the showrooms as well (;))…)(I own one of the smaller/cheaper cars of course)…..I prefer landrovers to mercs however prestigious they are !.... Landrovers are very well made and practical.....servicing is essential of course.....I'm even considering a replacement.....I hope they don't overprice their new defender...and they should/must bring in a Baby Defender ...a sort of like a Fiat Panda 4/4 but better made ...entry model less than fifteen grand : electric/petrol/hybrid (options can be added)...to me It's essential for the well-being of the company...could be a market bestseller...!

Governments have been pushing diesel for decades....now it's petrol …..and not even that....electric vehicles are coming but they are at the moment only good for urban areas...not for long distances.....London-Birmingham : you are going to struggle.....hydrogen is making enormous advances quietly....so land rover designers had better get their designs ready quickly...!..

cynic - 10 Jan 2019 19:52 - 11405 of 12628

a free vote in parliament is now mooted
should that happen, i wonder how things would pan out
would MP's vote per their electorate's wishes or per their personal preference?
imo, it should be per their electorate's wishes, but i suspect many would not - eg dominic grieve

Stan - 10 Jan 2019 20:28 - 11406 of 12628

Most Mp’s will vote in general for No1 their own personal self interest 2 their families 3 their friends. Last of all their constituents.

Fred1new - 10 Jan 2019 20:59 - 11407 of 12628

Their very fluid consciences!

Forgot some of them are tories.

8-)

PS.

Suggested Free Vote weeks ago.

Dil - 10 Jan 2019 21:20 - 11408 of 12628

For once I agree with Stan


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cynic - 11 Jan 2019 08:47 - 11409 of 12628

i agree stan .... we have seen self-interest already ruling

Fred1new - 11 Jan 2019 08:56 - 11410 of 12628


Fred1new - 11 Jan 2019 09:00 - 11411 of 12628

"We are leaving the EU" But:

1) Sticking to the Customs Regulations
2) Sticking to the trade tariffs
3) Sticking to the Laws
4) sticking to Free Movement in and out of the EU


Etc. Ect.

But the government is governing when it can get up off its knees to the unions and beg standing up!

Cerise Noire Girl - 11 Jan 2019 09:17 - 11412 of 12628

Maggie's offensive offensive seems to be going well. The Currant Bun's forecast is for a largest ever Commons defeat by a 228 votes majority.

Cerise Noire Girl - 11 Jan 2019 12:36 - 11413 of 12628

She's got a point!

:o)

Fred1new - 11 Jan 2019 13:30 - 11414 of 12628

She succinctly stated what many think.
-=-=-

The message for T. May is "be gone, woman, begone" and take your party with you.

Fred1new - 11 Jan 2019 13:32 - 11415 of 12628

Having a guess, the market is saying "Brexit" is going to fail.

cynic - 11 Jan 2019 13:36 - 11416 of 12628

i don't think a hard brexit has ever been likely, despite what some of the loonies have to say

hilary - 11 Jan 2019 14:26 - 11417 of 12628

Hard Brexit, cyners. Everyone's talking about NO Brexit now!

Please try to keep up.

:o)

cynic - 11 Jan 2019 14:29 - 11418 of 12628

i don't think anyone knows what they're talking about!

Stan - 11 Jan 2019 14:36 - 11419 of 12628

Alf, don't judge everyone by your own limitations.

cynic - 11 Jan 2019 14:47 - 11420 of 12628

indeed not, but you haven't a clue either :-)
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