Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Their very fluid consciences!

Forgot some of them are tories.

8-)

PS.

Suggested Free Vote weeks ago.

For once I agree with Stan


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i agree stan .... we have seen self-interest already ruling

"We are leaving the EU" But:

1) Sticking to the Customs Regulations
2) Sticking to the trade tariffs
3) Sticking to the Laws
4) sticking to Free Movement in and out of the EU


Etc. Ect.

But the government is governing when it can get up off its knees to the unions and beg standing up!

Maggie's offensive offensive seems to be going well. The Currant Bun's forecast is for a largest ever Commons defeat by a 228 votes majority.

She's got a point!

:o)

She succinctly stated what many think.
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The message for T. May is "be gone, woman, begone" and take your party with you.

Having a guess, the market is saying "Brexit" is going to fail.

i don't think a hard brexit has ever been likely, despite what some of the loonies have to say

Hard Brexit, cyners. Everyone's talking about NO Brexit now!

Please try to keep up.

:o)

i don't think anyone knows what they're talking about!

Alf, don't judge everyone by your own limitations.

indeed not, but you haven't a clue either :-)

No one does only the 1st informed referendum will give us a better idea what the Country wants, but the arguing will continue because unfortunately most people on this Island like it that way.

Actually, Caroline Lucas talks sense on the matter.

"No one does" ....... exactly what i said!

My guess is TM will creep over the line with some help from the EU may be not on first vote but a second. She has a track record of beating the odds.

i would like to think so, but perhaps that is just wishful thinking

plainly corbyn won't win a no confidence vote and for that matter, he has no proper plan for any kind of brexit and has also been warned against promoting a 2nd referendum - which, as with nearly every policy utterance he makes, sometimes he does and sometimes he doesn't

"plainly corbyn won't win a no confidence vote and for that matter, he has no proper plan for any kind of brexit"

1) the no confidence vote will be against T.M and the tory government not Corbyn.
2) I would think the majority of the tory party are fed up with ineptitude of the present tory and recent past leaders (Cameron, Osborne, Jonhson and Mogg etc.) and would prefer to give up what for some of the party elite see their rightful place to rule.
3) Many of the cabinet seem to preparing to resign to bring the present mobsters or oligarchy down.
4) Corbyn doesn't need any plan for exiting the EU. The labour party can join with the SNP and Lib/dems and opt to stay in and put that to the electorate in their manifesto, pointing out the failure of the tories and neo-cons’ failed plans and the consequences of carrying on the stupidity of the last 2years.

5) Also, they can unite and with the above parties and be prepared to form a possibly necessary coalition government with a small sprinkling of sensible moderate tories.

Fascinating to watch the squirming of the present ruling mob and their followers.