Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Tusk already trying to get the UK to stay, as being what they were working towards all along.

Time to give him and them a big kick up the backside and boot them into touch.

Martini, Dil,

Why don't you jump in after her.

All this talk about Brexit - I'm still waiting for Dilbert to post his sheepsh@gging photos from yesterday!

:o)

Can we have a sweepstake on how long Article 50 gets extended for at the first extension?

I'm up for 31st December 2019 if you're happy to keep the tab, Dil.

That could be interesting coming after the European Parliament elections.

The EU27 will have already started carving up the UK's allocation of seats, George. Angie will just need to tell them that the UK's money is the bigger picture.

They'll huff, and they'll puff, but they'll get over it.

It's not just in the UK though, there is mass discontent throughout Europe. There could well be a huge change in the make-up of the EU Parliament.

Is your graph compiled by the Guardian in conjunction with the BBC?

There isn't mass discontent within Europe - certainly not discontent with the EU, and the EU is going from strength to strength.

Stories of an EU collapse is an urban myth being peddled by the right-wing British press.

When I was a child, I was often told by my father "to look down the road before I walked it".

I think that applies to so-called "Brexit".

Extension of Article 50 for at least 3months after the next election, which I guess will be a wipeout for the tories.

This will allow time to prepare for a New Informed Referendum IN or OUT.

This tory cabal can't be trusted and they don't trust the "people" to examine their own futures.

T.May has raised her own arrogance of that of her party to a delusional level.

If she thinks she is right about her fitness to govern, put it to the people in a general election.

She seems to me to be a coward hiding behind a cloak of arrogance and superiority.

George old fruit you seem to be out on a limb down there in Cornwall, have you considered moving to somewhere else?

Ignore Stan, and stay where you are, George. We certainly don't need you in Europe!

george - that there'll be no brexit (or whatever) by 29/3 is a racing certainty, so CNG's graph is probably correct

If the UK extension of article 50 lasts beond the the EU elections - will the British be voting for their own members?

Interesting talk about the mess that parliament and the country are in over Brexit.

Remember Cameron and Osborne and a tory clique created the problem and T. Maybe continue digging and expanding the hole they were in.

It wasn't Labour or Lib/Dem or SNP doing the negotiations, they didn't have the plans or the civil service backings of research etc..

Put the chaos down to the tory's elite's conceit. They should own up to their inadequacies and recognise their failings and walk the plank.

while labour have no policy at all, as demonstrated in a number of interviews over the last week or two

If I was dealing with the present bunch of tories I would say "show me the books and let me see ALL the information" and then we will discuss the possibilities.

That includes potential damage of exiting.

Members of the present tory elite are behaving like secondhand car dealers of old.

Fred , why would I jump off a cliff with Mrs May because she lost a vote on a deal that I've never supported ?

As for a general election , you do realise that even after the almighty cock up that May has made of negotiating a deal she and her party are still ahead of Corby and the Loonie Left Party ? Says it all really.

Hils , I'm not against say a three month extension period followed by a six month implementation period for a managed no deal.

May should resign and a caretaker appointed to try and get a consensus in Parliament for a proper deal.

I'm still waiting for Labour to come up with any viable alternative to no deal. Their six tests are a non starter.

EU are sounding a bit pissed off with us this morning so finally we're starting to get things right. They've had it all their own way so far , now it's time to start the real negotiations.

Members of the present tory elite are behaving like secondhand car dealers of old.

Of which you will know a lot about. Do you spend all of your half-living day on this site? Curious existence. Let's hope for your sake that your brother is right and you find something more useful to do.

Voting at the next election would be a start.

as far as i can determine, and it's far from easy, both major parties have near enough equal support
how much that will change, if at all, after last night's vote, is impossible to say

however, at this point in a parliament, the opposition should be romping ahead which clearly labour are not