Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Hils , only the side roads are bad and they are passable with care. We laugh here when Cardiff or London see a snowflake and it becomes the main item on the news and everything grinds to a halt.

Was never really into it Stan , did a bit in the Docks at Barry when I was a kid and sometimes went out on one of the pilot boats that my mates father was captain of. I always found it boring.

Fred , you do though :-)

Same here, I only ask because apparently you've got a giant shark from the Canary Islands basking off the Welsh coast...no seriously.

Flick through our quiz to question 5 and there is a picture of it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-47026742

Think you'd need a crane with a hook on it the line catch that monster -):

We had a legendary conger eel in the docks called Percy that if you listened to some was almost as big as the Loch Ness monster.

It was as real as the Loch Ness monster too.

There are plenty fishermens story`s on these threads, mostly nothing to do the slippery eels that ply their trade. Much like the doom and gloom bridage when in comes to leaving the EU.

With the downturn in trade that China is suffering, there must be plenty of ships available and at bargain transport rates I suspect. The will soon be heading from New Zealand etc. fully loaded with not only their wines (replacing the EU wines) but with products they used to supply before the UK joined the EU.

We will be able to go back to making herbal wines and ginger beer.

Marrow wine was good!

Thats the spirit Fred. :-)

As a boy, my friends and I used to try and distill the various "fermentations".
Tasted b. awful, but fun.

So you were a bootlegger Fred, not still at it I hope. I still have not got to grips making wine from my very small vinyard, started two years ago and it still tastes vile, as wine goes that is.

What you remind me of when I was in school the chemistry lab had 5-litre flasks of Industrial Gin delivered in the Autumn term.

Was never sure what it was used for. Many thought it was for the staff's Xmas parties.

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If you are thinking of making your own wine in "large" quantities think of taking a holiday in a "September" drifting through France and staying at small farms, who are making small quantities for own consumption.

They will be happy to show you some of their tricks.

Have a look at https://www.farmstayplanet.com/farm-stay-rural-travel-guides/france/

Never used them. My motor home a was like a wandering home for about 20 years.

Fred1new [Send an email to Fred1new] [View Fred1new's profile] - 01 Feb 2019 09:06 - 12133 of 12148

Watch out there are snowflakes about.

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Still watching out for Humphrey.

Cheers,
KidA

Italian economy in recession and their PM says the downtrend will continue into 2019.

Italian gov. debt at an eyewatering £2trillion.

don't worry - EU + UK will pay that off for them

might help if the italians paid some tax themselves

EU economic growth stagnating at 0.2%

Italy have been stumped by being in the Euro

Nothing compared with what littler england will be outside the EU..

My posts reflect official figures whilst your post 12154 is nothing more than Freddie's fantasy.

W/S.

George and other Outsiders in for quite disappointing near term future.

I always said there would be short term problems to sort out when we Leave, but once they are behind us the UK will flourish.

The greater problem has been before we Leave due to the continual efforts to cheat the majority of voters by MP's and other self seeking elitist factions.

Don't worry too much though Stan I don't include you or Fred in those elitist ranks