Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Some more from The Guardian.

Deutsche Bank: Germany is drifting towards recession
Today’s grim factory orders data come just hours after Deutsche Bank warned that Germany is probably heading for recession.

In a new report, Deutsche economists wrote:

“The start of the German economy into 2019 has been a major disappointment so far.
“The development of several key cyclical indicators is telling us that the German economy is drifting towards recession right now.”

Fred, Projections cooked up by whom?

Just like Mark Carney telling everyone before voting for Brexit that it would be a disaster, and gloating about doom and gloom to try to get what the Remainers wanted, with even th US President being joined up.

Now Trump is joined up to the other camp and will put the UK at the front of the pack and do a trade deal, while the rest of the EU falls apart with no UK money to support their spending.

I sure would put my trust in Trump!

He's no worse than that clown in charge of the EU. He'll find out what hell on earth is like when Merkel gets hold of him.

I`ll take you at your word Fred and delighted to hear that you now sure would put your trust in Trump. :-)
If he can make the women from all sides clap during his SOTU address, then little wonder that he has you on side now.

"Fred1new - 06 Feb 2019 16:13 - 12286 of 12287
I sure would put my trust in Trump!"

Well said Donny lad, give erm some welly I say.

Lol , all of EU are distancing themselves from Tusks lunatic ranting but you stand by him.

Well done Stan.

Reminds me of a Lion annual album, I think 1964 : in the words of Hanibal : his tanks had Tusks !.....(sigh)...a film should be made of him.....almost conquered Rome.....

“I've been wondering what that special place in hell looks like, for those who promoted #Brexit, without even a sketch of a plan how to carry it out safely.”

Some of the nonsense spoken about the above is quite frankly embarrassing to listen too, a storm in a tea cup.

50 days to go Stan , getting down to the nitty gritty now.

Even Tusk has given up on a second referendum or any chance of us staying in the EU. Grumpier he gets the better , can't wait to hear his farewell speech to us on the 29th March. He's going to blame every EU crisis from now to eternity on the UK and Brexit.

Tic toc Tusky boy.

Oh dear, George. I've read that a Devon council are going to buy the Proper Cornish Pasty factory. Quel dommage!!!

Apparantly cornish pasties were given protected status by the EU - a bit like the AOC and AOP given to fine wines and cheeses. If you change your mind and decide to stay, the EU might be able to block the sale.

:o)

Now look here boyo whilst Donny's bit of a star he doesn't know everything...roll on that Informed referendum!

Meanwhile the hapless Maybe Maybe not is off for yet another away day to no apparent end.

Works both ways Hils. I heard Cornwall are going to start knocking out Champagne , Parmesan cheese and Frankfurters instead.

Stan,

"special place in hell looks like"

He should have a little look in No 10.

Hilary

I have mixed feelings, for a start I don't believe councils should be using council tax payers money to invest in business, but I have absolutely no problem with any Cornish company being taken over by a company outside of Cornwall, however it appears you have.

That's part and parcel why we Leavers voted LEAVE, so we could trade with whoever.

On a far bigger scale it's like Dyson going to Singapore, it was mainly little European Remoaners who had a problem with that.

Why on earth would I wish to change my mind about leaving this particular club.

Where did I say exactly that the council were buying the business, George?

Now you're being pedantic.

I can understand Mr Tusk being frustrated that there was no plan for Brexit : There wasn't....Cameron gave us the referendum...did he have a plan in case the vote went for exit ?.....no ….a complete organised mess was his version of a referendum...and here we are in the s--t.....the trouble is the EU is one big crazy idea...if there was just France-Germany-Holland-Belgium-Netherlands-Luxembourg : it would work...but not 27 member states all in debt up to their eyebrows...just madness...no border controls or precious little...everybody can go to another country and set up residence....illegal immigration from the third world completely out of control....no ways of raising interest rates or dropping them....you are completely tied in to a European system whether you agree or not....it is just bonkers.....aren't our politicians wonderful ?….and they wonder why Britain chose leave !....and wait to see what it'll be like if Italy and Spain, Portugal or Greece default in repayments......it'll be hell all right but hopefully the UK might be a sort of Noah's Ark !....

Don't bank on the Noah's Ark bit rf