Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Now you're being pedantic.

I can understand Mr Tusk being frustrated that there was no plan for Brexit : There wasn't....Cameron gave us the referendum...did he have a plan in case the vote went for exit ?.....no ….a complete organised mess was his version of a referendum...and here we are in the s--t.....the trouble is the EU is one big crazy idea...if there was just France-Germany-Holland-Belgium-Netherlands-Luxembourg : it would work...but not 27 member states all in debt up to their eyebrows...just madness...no border controls or precious little...everybody can go to another country and set up residence....illegal immigration from the third world completely out of control....no ways of raising interest rates or dropping them....you are completely tied in to a European system whether you agree or not....it is just bonkers.....aren't our politicians wonderful ?….and they wonder why Britain chose leave !....and wait to see what it'll be like if Italy and Spain, Portugal or Greece default in repayments......it'll be hell all right but hopefully the UK might be a sort of Noah's Ark !....

Don't bank on the Noah's Ark bit rf

Might be for investors.....it's frustrating that this exit wasn't better sorted so you can in a way understand the pickle the EU chiefs are in....we should never...never have agreed to this set up in the first place....

Nor speak to those bloody neighbours.

RF Seems to be in the dark ages like most of the Outsiders.

Speaking would be construed as negotiations.

God forbid.

The current problem appears to be due to TM signing the agreement with the EU BEFORE agreeing the terms with parliament, and whilst I have a little (just a little) sympathy with the EU negotiating team, what happened to nothing is agreed until everything is agreed.

I think George displays some typical Tory Party voters traits in admitting just some of their Leaders incompetent decision making I.E. Cameron and May over Europe, meanwhile blaming others for “ their” own chronic and damaging decisions.

At the same time constantly voting for them no matter what..absolutely irresponsible. The epitome of the Little Englander.

You probably mean epitome Stan.

Apitamy------Lettris is a curious tetris-clone game where all the bricks have the same square shape but different content. Each square carries a letter. To make squares disappear and save space for other squares you have to assemble English words (left, right, up, down) from the falling squares.

There is no one else to vote for. All the other parties have bigger loonies in charge than the Tories so a lot of people voted for the best (by a country mile) of a bad bunch.

Was that said of Hitler in his final days?

Fred is that why the Labour Party ended up with JC, as bar John McDonnell the rest are a little less unbalanced.

German Industrial Production fell by 0.4% in December against a Reuters poll expectation of 0.7% rise. December 2018 is 3.9% down on December 2017

Correct George, so I expect my evaluation of you is spot on?

Dil or should I say PL Dil (no don’t laugh) just like the football team you chose your judgement in Politics is particularly wrong as well.

Strange how a Cornish Pixie picked up the mistake.

I would also have spelt "epitome" as the word sounds to me.

It only sounds like that to you Fred because you have been reading too many of those silly cartoons. The other one has no excuse for his ignorance apart from himself. Maybe he should "bare" that in mind... sheesh.

Stan, re damaging decisions, I voted for the party that would provide the best solution for the country after Labour screwed it up (again) last time.

If you want to see damage you only have to look at Brexit, after the biggest vote in our history, with a clear majority, it should have been reasonably straight forward to implement the will of the people.

However, many of the so called elitists in our society do not want to abide by the result of the referendum, they want to overturn the democratic vote. Instead of getting behind the vote uniting as a country we have this powerful section of society against Brexit. These are the people responsible for inflicting damage on the UK


Re your evaluation of me, I know you hold me in high regard Stan, if it were otherwise quite frankly I couldn't give a fishes tit.

I've voted for at least five different parties if you include independent as a party.

Never voted Lib though , always seemed a bit wishy washy to me and never knew whether they were coming or going.

A sheep with a red rosette would win most elections around here.