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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Dil - 12 Feb 2019 19:55 - 12469 of 12628

Wtf has Caney been smoking , I want some.

Biggest Brexit U turn I've seen so far.

Martini - 12 Feb 2019 21:46 - 12470 of 12628

I get a whiff of manipulation. Hmmmm

Fred1new - 13 Feb 2019 09:04 - 12471 of 12628

An interesting article:

https://russellinvestments.com/uk/blog/four-potential-outcomes-for-brexit

Fred1new - 13 Feb 2019 09:06 - 12472 of 12628

There is still room for M and M.

Claret Dragon - 13 Feb 2019 09:14 - 12473 of 12628

Article from Russel.

Sterling at parity with Euro if no deal.

Fred1new - 13 Feb 2019 09:45 - 12474 of 12628

Remember the Pound in your pocket!

8-)

cynic - 13 Feb 2019 09:59 - 12475 of 12628

ah happy days from 1967(!) of harold wilson with his false humble facade with pipe and gannex mac

Dil - 13 Feb 2019 10:05 - 12476 of 12628

Great read Fred.

Chance of remain 10%

Chance of single market custom Union deal 10%

Current deal in some form 50%

No deal Brexit 30%



So out we go then.

Fred1new - 13 Feb 2019 10:35 - 12477 of 12628

"Your revels now are ending. These your actors,
As is foretold by you, were all spirits, and
Are melted into air, into thin air:
And like the baseless fabric of this vision,
The cloud-capp'd tow'rs, the gorgeous palaces,
The solemn temples, the great globe itself,
Yea, all which it inherits, shall dissolve,
And, like this insubstantial pageant faded,
Leave not a rack behind. You are such stuff
As dreams are made on; and your little life
Is rounded with a sleep."

Martini - 13 Feb 2019 10:41 - 12478 of 12628

Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more;
Or close the wall up with our English dead.
In peace there's nothing so becomes a man
As modest stillness and humility:
But when the blast of war blows in our ears,
Then imitate the action of the tiger;
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favour'd rage;
Then lend the eye a terrible aspect;
Let pry through the portage of the head
Like the brass cannon; let the brow o'erwhelm it
As fearfully as doth a galled rock
O'erhang and jutty his confounded base,
Swill'd with the wild and wasteful ocean.
Now set the teeth and stretch the nostril wide,
Hold hard the breath and bend up every spirit
To his full height. On, on, you noblest English.
Whose blood is fet from fathers of war-proof!
Fathers that, like so many Alexanders,
Have in these parts from morn till even fought
And sheathed their swords for lack of argument:
Dishonour not your mothers; now attest
That those whom you call'd fathers did beget you.
Be copy now to men of grosser blood,
And teach them how to war. And you, good yeoman,
Whose limbs were made in England, show us here
The mettle of your pasture; let us swear
That you are worth your breeding; which I doubt not;
For there is none of you so mean and base,
That hath not noble lustre in your eyes.
I see you stand like greyhounds in the slips,
Straining upon the start. The game's afoot:
Follow your spirit, and upon this charge
Cry 'God for Harry, England, and Saint George!'

Fred1new - 13 Feb 2019 10:55 - 12479 of 12628

O little englander, what fate will befall you?

hilary - 13 Feb 2019 11:02 - 12480 of 12628

The boy stood on the burning deck
And he was all a quiver
He had a cough
His leg fell off
And floated down the river.

Martini - 13 Feb 2019 11:21 - 12481 of 12628

Freedom chubby Fred

Stan - 13 Feb 2019 11:33 - 12482 of 12628

Blimey hark who’s talking )-:

Martini - 13 Feb 2019 11:35 - 12483 of 12628

O whilst I have your attention Stan any update on your much trailed informal referendum?

Stan - 13 Feb 2019 11:57 - 12484 of 12628

Not just mine M but lots of bodies in the UK, and growing.

I refer you to my previous answer on the question.

Martini - 13 Feb 2019 11:59 - 12485 of 12628

Too many posts ago Stan give it to me one more time please.

Stan - 13 Feb 2019 12:06 - 12486 of 12628

Also too many posts ago M so you will have to spend time going back yourself.

Dil - 13 Feb 2019 12:08 - 12487 of 12628

Well when 17.5 million sign a petition Stan we'll think about it but I'm not promising anything.

44 days ago it was New Years Eve , only seems like yesterday.

Martini - 13 Feb 2019 12:25 - 12488 of 12628

O Stan I feel denied the benefit of your wisdom. Maybe your pal Oliver can remember?
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