chartist2004
- 15 Apr 2004 12:02
The tiny Irish stock on the brink of landing 'the first' post-sanction oil deal in Iraq. Ref 'Fleet Street Letter' 12-04-04..
EWRobson
- 30 Nov 2004 19:19
- 1367 of 2700
dexter
I suspect the answer is that the MMs have been marking small-cap and AIM stocks down across the board. ASC is very similar to PET; MPH (Marchpole) had some dramatic buying late in the day without the price budging. With negativity in the market generally I suspect that it is an effort to stop too much selling taking hold when they don't want the stock.
We are bound to get stories like scottie's Norwegian one as people try to explain the delay. The most likely answer is much more simple, that there is a lot of work involved to agree the detail of the contracts and it has spilt over into December. There could be politics involved bit I would have thought that would have surfaced earlier. Keep coming back to the fact that they ahve asked PET to stay mum. As time passes the price may well drift so I hope that folk don't have stop losses in place. But I don't feel like investing more in a hiatus, so its back to sitting on my hands!
Eric
aldwickk
- 30 Nov 2004 21:53
- 1368 of 2700
If you have a stop loss you should review it about twice aday, i have lowed my stop loss from 90p to 85p today, with a share like this it would be mad not have a stop loss, no contracts = 40p-60p.
EWRobson
- 30 Nov 2004 22:06
- 1369 of 2700
aldwickk
Well, there are arguments both ways. Felt sorry for chap a little while ago who suddenly lost his shares because the stop loss was triggered on a temporary intra-day drop. If you have one you need to keep a weather eye on it but what if you are off playing golf, even working (!) or something. If, heaven forbid, there was an RNS saying it was all off then the MMs are going to have the priced marked heavily down at the opening, so will you actually get a better price? OK, I'm mad, but aren't we all? As has been said many times on this column, the money you have in PET must be money that you 'can afford' to lose.
Having said that, my bet is still 3:1 on although that is down a wee bit in the last few days. What are other's odds?
Eric
ziblot
- 30 Nov 2004 22:36
- 1370 of 2700
Don't think a stop loss will matter with this stock. Any bad news and this will take a 30% hit in one go. Last dog I had with comdirect the share went straight thru' my stop loss and 15% leeway and was shocked to find I was still in it as the stock did not hit my parameters. The stock bounced tho' so I was better off not selling.The MMs create dead cat bounces because they don't want the stock either and a mark up fools the punters into coming back in for a cat thats had its last bounce. Remember they have been told not to make an announcement.z
aldwickk
- 30 Nov 2004 23:01
- 1371 of 2700
I have got a guaranteen stop loss on 75% and non-guaranteen on 25%.
gra1969
- 01 Dec 2004 07:33
- 1372 of 2700
very hard day to stomach yesterday, been looking everywhere for anything to cheer me up! Why do i get the feeling im gonna like Friday? Hopeful or stupid ha ha!
dexter01
- 01 Dec 2004 10:07
- 1373 of 2700
Morning one and all,
Something that just occurred to me, the IOM said they expected to AWARD the contracts on 2 tenders in November and SIGN them in December. Now, we know that PET have been "sworn to secrecy" by the IOM, surely it would make good business not to put out an rns saying that they have got whatever until they sign on the dotted line,this would mean an rns in December.
This might seem like i`m clutching at straws, but we have all been hanging on every word that has been said and then disecting it even further, but if you stand back and look at the whole picture it does make sense not to announce something until it is set in stone, especially when you have been told not to.
just my thoughts,
Dexter
gra1969
- 01 Dec 2004 11:06
- 1374 of 2700
interesting to see a mm to mm trade this morning
aldwickk
- 01 Dec 2004 11:10
- 1375 of 2700
Dexter.
I agree with that it makes sense.
Kivver
- 01 Dec 2004 13:02
- 1376 of 2700
And what excuse are we going to give at the end of dec, with still no annoncements this could go on for months or even years. It seems silly that somebody somewhere cant say whats happening. Starting to lose faith somebody give me some encouragement. I also bought at high price so already well down.
willfagg
- 01 Dec 2004 13:21
- 1377 of 2700
I agree, would have thought a statement advising of when a further trading update will be given does not contravene the rules and would at least suggest things are delayed not dead
Tokyo
- 01 Dec 2004 13:29
- 1378 of 2700
Kivver - The only encouragement you should need is to look at your research, if not flick back through the thread(as there is plently of good info on here) and you'll see we are just waiting for the same announcement that we were waiting for after the PET team came back from Jordan, nothing apart from the Share price has changed since then, if anything we are closer to a possible announcement, but then again it could come towards the end of this month, is there an other investment out there, that will jump from 90 pence to 3 pounds on a possible announcement, I've got two companies with possible announcements this month NBR & PET both look set to jump if they come in, I'm pretty confident about both of them, but I do understand the frustration especially if you bought in at over a pound.
Tokyo
chartist2004
- 01 Dec 2004 13:35
- 1379 of 2700
>Tokyo< 'Nothing apart the share price has changed since then' Is this not what we are all interested in?
Tokyo
- 01 Dec 2004 14:00
- 1380 of 2700
Chartist - I'm interested in the share price after the contracts have been awarded, not the current SP or intraday ups & downs,I'll leave those to the day traders, still waiting for that 435!!!!!!
Kivver
- 01 Dec 2004 14:03
- 1381 of 2700
Tokyo - been following this thread with interest, contstanly reading the announcement will be this day, next week , the end of nov, now people are saying december some time. Yes it is frustration but everyone may as well say the results could be between now and anytime in the future.
Oilywag
- 01 Dec 2004 14:14
- 1382 of 2700
I posted this on the BB at another place and to a lesser degree, it does apply here as well.
"Look guys, like you and many others, I would love to hear whether PET has won one or more contracts or indeed any at all.
But the more we pepper them with e-mails the more they are going to get pissed off with us all - if not already.
We all know that there are many unpredictables in dealing with Iraq at the moment and there are bound to be delays and last minute hitches.
Lets stop behaving like screaming brats in a supermarket demanding to be given sweeties before we get home. Just be more patient and mature.
Let me ask you all a question. Would you like to be David Horgan and receiving so many e-mails from a multitude of share holders all asking roughly the same question(s)?
Yea, I guess not!
'Nuff said"
Oilywag
Kivver
- 01 Dec 2004 14:17
- 1383 of 2700
I agree but wish people would stop predicting when the results be known, cus nobody knows. The unknown is the turmoil going on in Iraq and as a result the answer could be months or even years away.
dbfm
- 01 Dec 2004 14:21
- 1384 of 2700
I saw this on another board this morning, thought it was pretty good:
"And right here let me say one thing: After spending many years in Wall Street and after making and losing millions of dollars I want to tell you this: It never was my thinking that made the big money for me. It always was my sitting. Got that? My sitting tight! It is no trick at all to be right on the market. You always find lots of early bulls in bull markets and early bears in bear markets. I've known many men who were right at exactly the right time, and began buying and selling stocks when prices were at the very level which should show the greatest profit. And their experience invariably matched mine - that is, they made no real money out of it. Men who can both be right and sit tight are uncommon. I found it one of the hardest things to learn. But it is only after a stock operator has firmly grasped this that he can make big money. It is literally true that millions come easier to a trader after he knows how to trade than hundreds did in the days of his ignorance."
gra1969
- 01 Dec 2004 14:22
- 1385 of 2700
it would appear that frustration is setting in! lets not lose sight of the objective and build up to this share. Please refer to the many informed and insightful posts on this Thread.
Those that wish to hold do so and those that are now fed up and feel that this is taking a lifetime sell and move on.
I for one, am holding, Tokyo is quit correct in that intraday movements are irrelevant. The end result is an RNS confirming contracts signed with MOO. And i would add, an Sp that will dwarf the current!
aldwickk
- 01 Dec 2004 15:42
- 1386 of 2700
It would not take much to dwarf this share price LOL.