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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

cynic - 29 Apr 2016 08:47 - 1387 of 12628

would be delighted if it did, but far too late now i fear
a really nice couple too, and no chance of that rubbing off on me either :-)

Stan - 29 Apr 2016 08:49 - 1388 of 12628

Assuredly -):

cynic - 29 Apr 2016 08:55 - 1389 of 12628

more to the point, neither washington nor moscow nor peking nor riyadh would have legal control over many important and even fundamental parts of our lives

Fred1new - 29 Apr 2016 09:17 - 1390 of 12628

How about kowtowing in Dubai?

cynic - 29 Apr 2016 09:32 - 1391 of 12628

china and dubai have no link and dubai has no oil
do you have any more asinine comment?

that is surely a rhetorical question for we all know the answer

Fred1new - 29 Apr 2016 10:05 - 1392 of 12628

Are you referring to:

Chinese Nuclear energy?

Or, is that the French?

Whose thumb on the button?

Wonder what the road charges would be allowing transport through the tunnel and across borders for UK transporters?

jimmy b - 29 Apr 2016 10:09 - 1393 of 12628

Thick as concrete that old boy.

MaxK - 29 Apr 2016 10:14 - 1394 of 12628

Fred.

The charges etc would be the same for both parties, in or out.

MaxK - 29 Apr 2016 10:23 - 1395 of 12628

Meanwhile, things are really going with a bang in €uroland.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3564284/Burn-rich-Porsche-goes-flames-10-000-students-activists-clash-police-riots-labour-laws-France.html


ps. It's not just La Belle France.

Fred1new - 29 Apr 2016 11:13 - 1396 of 12628

Max.

Some in the UK were saying that about political change in Germany in the 1930s.

cynic - 29 Apr 2016 11:19 - 1397 of 12628

it was difficult enough to get unanimity when there were only 13 member-states, but with 28 and growing it will be totally impossible ....... and that will not be lost on germany and arguably france

meanwhile, the french are getting stuck into one of their regular "restless" modes as their gov't attempts to modify their labour laws, so i'm sure the customary transport-related strikes will follow for the summer holidays

jimmy b - 29 Apr 2016 11:22 - 1398 of 12628

Fred thinks we are going to have to start paying for commercial transport to use the tunnel and European roads ,which we have obviously been doing for years ,jeez talk about uninformed .

Fred1new - 29 Apr 2016 11:57 - 1399 of 12628

Dumbo.

Double the charges and cost of "licences" etc. Differential tolls etc.. Preferring to trade within the EU than importing from EU.

45% of UK exports to the EU, less than 10% of exports from EU to UK.

VICTIM - 29 Apr 2016 12:00 - 1400 of 12628

If we are not in the EU we will be able to source outside new markets . pain aren't i Freda .

jimmy b - 29 Apr 2016 12:04 - 1401 of 12628

Fred you know nothing about international road transport so shut up .

cynic - 29 Apr 2016 12:07 - 1402 of 12628

there's an awful lot of intermodal stuff too (containers) which gets moved across the channel on ships ..... so how does fred reckon that would be treated?

jimmy b - 29 Apr 2016 12:10 - 1403 of 12628

cynic ,i only know about road transport ,it was my business for years and i can't have Fred talking nonsense about charges etc .

VICTIM - 29 Apr 2016 12:16 - 1404 of 12628

jimmy you can do this you will love this piece in the Telegraph a Michael Petley founder of the city investment managers ECU group . The EU merry go round is broken time to get out .

cynic - 29 Apr 2016 12:16 - 1405 of 12628

i confess i skip straight past at least 95% of his stuff

Fred1new - 29 Apr 2016 12:34 - 1406 of 12628

I am told one of the first signs of senility is repeating oneself.
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