Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Today

That's better.

The latest poll of polls ( mean of 6 over last week) has it at 53:47. Turn out will be the key. Just ensure that you vote and ignore the polls. The bookies had Leicester at 5000:1.

Be careful what you wish for Fred.
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There was another poll in the same paper besides the one put up by Haystacks(1971) Which was an online poll(I think the one in the graph(1971) was a phone poll?) that put the LEAVE side ahead, maybe someone can put that up?..

You are strange Hays , you say you want to leave but any chance of telling us the remainers lead in a poll and your in there .

Yes he never put the online poll up which gave a LEAVE side in lead..

Well most people I talk with are definite LEAVE voters, the same with the letters pages in newspapers, an overwhelming majority want to LEAVE.
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On the economic argument we export less now to the EU than we did in the 1970's, and with Europe now being a much smaller piece of the global cake, it makes sense to go after the bigger slice as well, rather than confine ourselves to just the decreasing EU slice.
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Well George what would we export to Romania , except anything that gets umm shall we say acquired . same for quite a few of the new lot too .

I think Haystack is a closet Remainian .

I think he says that to keep people off his back , he would marry Dave .

CBI - Wrong then wrong now
Last night, Lord Howard delivered a speech where he criticised the CBI’s record on the EU. The big business lobby group wants the UK to stay in the EU at any cost, but they have a dismal history when it comes to European issues.
In 1992 they called on the UK to join the Exchange Rate Mechanism, which was a disaster for our economy with interest rates rising to 15%, plunging homeowners across the country into negative equity. They then campaigned for the UK to join the Euro, which would have been disastrous.
The CBI does not represent British business. It speaks for the multinationals who support the EU because it works in their favour. They can afford expensive corporate lobbyists and large compliance departments to make the rules benefit their own interests. There is no better example of this than with the companies who have signed a letter today saying we should stay in the EU - last year these multinational firms together spent between €15.3 million and €17.65 million lobbying the European Commission.
Brussels is good for big businesses and fat cats who care about their bonuses, but it is bad for smaller businesses and entrepreneurs. The British people will not be bullied into voting to stay in by large corporates who are only looking out for their profit margin. On 23 June we will take back control of our economy and democracy to allow businesses to thrive and UK plc to prosper.

EU rules make it harder to stop criminals entering UK
Justice Minister Dominic Raab has lifted the lid on an important EU ruling that forces British officials to let terror suspects come into the UK unchallenged or disclose top secret intelligence to them. Writing in the Mail, Mr Raab explains how the European Court of Justice has ruled that a suspect 'must be informed, in any event, of the essence of the grounds on which a decision against him is taken'. However, security officials are understandably reluctant to hand over information which could expose their secret operations or activities of agents.
This shows how much control we have handed to the EU, and how this threatens our national security. Thanks to EU freedom of movement rules it means that it is much harder to block EU criminals from coming to the UK. Criminal convictions are not grounds alone for barring entry. Indeed, over the past decade, Britain has refused entry to just 11,000 EU nationals, compared to 200,000 non-EU nationals.
After we Vote Leave on 23 June we can take back control of our borders to ensure we can prevent dangerous criminals entering the UK. We can also stop the European Court having powers over our intelligence and security services, thereby strengthening our national security and helping to keep the British people safe.

It's also strange how Freda ignores this sort of reporting and probably truth , but doesn't suit his agenda i suppose .

The word to examine in probably and its meanings.

Make a list of things which when the referendum is over you would like addressed by the EU.

Probably the same problems which annoy many other countries in the EU.

That is one of the problems in being a member of a club, rather than camping in a tent on an isolated island.

Make your choice.

Have you not been reading how the countries having massive pressure put on them by Migrants are getting no help from Brussels in fact threatened would be a good description . You think they are going to address any problems , they DON'T listen to anyone .

Where there is a will there is a way!

Free movement of people ,the EU know that huge amounts are coming to the UK and we are struggling to cope but they don't care.
Merkel inviting Syrians to come to Europe has been a disaster (she now knows this) but what have they done?
There is an uprising right across Europe and it will get worse .Breaking up the EU is the only way for Europe to survive .
I believe we will vote out ,not because i want to because i really believe the Brits have had enough ,the polls won't reflect this right now.

You are beginning to sound like Enoch Powell.