Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Vicky and Manuel,

The market movement is a just a reflection of possible expectancies.

But little Cynic is more interesting in disparaging anybody who holds different opinion.

A perfect little tory sycophant.

More tosh Freda , Oh wad the power , the gift he give us , to see ourselves as others see us , Robbie Burns , roughly .

Freda you have been a pain in the arse for years on this thread. It floats your left wing sinking boat. You ooze hypocrisy, remind us of your last stock purchase wasn't it a bank?

The world is going to end ... for the troughers :-)


http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/10/new-brexit-poll-shows-brits-leaning-toward-leaving-hits-markets.html

This week you might be forgiven for thinking that a well-known political dynasty was all that stood between Britain and disaster. You simply could not escape them, or their alarmist rhetoric. If we vote to leave the EU, they argue, we will have chosen ‘devastation and destruction’ The Mail.
Of course the dynasty is the successor to Rhodri the Great, King of Gwynedd, the magnificent Kinnock family. It has the same commitment to the average working family as a turkey farmer to his turkeys - to make a lot of money.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3636143/Greediest-snouts-EU-trough-Not-sure-vote-Read-stinking-wealth-hypocrisy-Brussels-fat-cats-Kinnocks-help-decide.html

I remember the Governor of Bank of England predicting a "Technical " recession.
What is a Technical recession - 2 quarters of recession.

Surely we should not be afraid of 6 more months of problems after we get out and can be expected - this is scaremongering for sure.

What we need to guess is what will happen in say the next 2 - 10 years, not the next 6 months.
Lets get out while we can, then watch the rest of the EU fall to pieces within the next couple of years. Economically - they need us more than we need them.
So do not be afraid of change but embrace it of UK to progress.

Also I can not understand why Nicola Sturgen is leader of Scottish parliament when Scots voted to stay in UK and she still wants Scots out - why should anyone now listen to her nonsense ? Yes, she can usually shout the loudest.

The government is now not allowed to use the machinery of state to
push their pro-eu agenda since 'Purdah' started last week.

But don't think that's it for pro-eu reports to be brandished at the public
in a scaremongering manner.

Just a couple of days before the referendum the IMF are to release an
update on the worlds economic state, but in all probability it'l be mostly on
the effect of a LEAVE vote, with the IMF throwing everything it can from the
doomsday book of scaremongering and fear.

Christine Largarde the pro-eu, ex French finance minister, now in charge at
the IMF will in her inimitable gallic manner tell us all of the forthcoming of
disaster, and plagues of locust to descend on us if we have the temerity
to vote LEAVE....

UP YOURS MADAM LARGARDE!!

Across the pond.

www.cnbc.com/2016/06/09/brexit-actually-makes-economic-sense.html

fred - we all know you're a total arsehole, but do at least try to report accurately .....

i have consistently written that there are many good arguments for staying in and likewise for exiting, so to write "little Cynic is more interesting in disparaging anybody who holds different opinion" is a total and typical untruth

to then write further that i am "a perfect little tory sycophant" is another nonsense, and in any case completely irrelevant to the current discussion
were that to have any factuality, i would presumably be a member of the conservative party (i am not) and also a supporter of cameron (remain camp) which i also am not

A trip down memory lane..




'We'll quit EU over migrants' David Cameron gets tough but UKIP say its too late

DAVID Cameron warned the European Union yesterday Britain was going to give it “one last go” to reform immigration rules or the UK would vote to leave.



By Owen Bennett

PUBLISHED: 05:43, Fri, Oct 17, 2014



Mr Cameron admitted “it’s not going to be easy” to renegotiate freedom of movement laws imposed by Brussels, but warned the rest of the EU it could lose one of the continent’s strongest powers if it did not give ground.




http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/523417/European-Union-powers-David-Cameron-immigration-policy

Think the don't knows must be getting off the fence and jumping Brexit way.

Remain campaign has become more desperate last couple of days , think it's squeaky bum time for Cammy and the scaremongers.

Who does this remind me of?

You live a bit in an Ivory Tower Freda don't you , banging on and on daily from your vantage point looking down on all and sundry , with your flaky responses to situations put to you . All in a days entertainment .

David Cameron says state pensions could be at risk if Brexit becomes reality



Exclusive: Prime minister claims protected NHS cash may have to go as he cautions voters on possible consequences of voting to leave



Honest dave spells it out



David Cameron has warned that pledges to raise state pensions every year and ringfence spending for the NHS may have to be ditched in a brutal new phase of austerity if the country votes for Brexit.


With Downing Street increasingly anxious about levels of support for leaving the EU, particularly among Labour voters, the prime minister says people need to focus on the “cold reality” of what Brexit would mean to their everyday lives and what they value most.

In an exclusive interview with the Observer, with only 12 days to go until the crucial referendum vote, Cameron insists he is not trying to scare people but is focusing on the reality of what life would be like outside the EU and the world’s largest trading market.

He says the so-called “triple lock” that guarantees annual increases in state pensions, ringfenced spending on the NHS, free TV licences and bus passes for pensioners, as well as defence spending would all be under threat.



The prime minister argues that a “black hole” in the public finances – predicted by the Institute for Fiscal Studies by 2020 in the event of Brexit – would threaten the very services that people cherish and rely on most.



More: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/11/brexit-axe-state-pensions-david-cameron-nhs-cold-reality

Vicky.

P2887,

I thought that role belong to you and that Moneyam's sophisticated little bit of rough. Manuel.

(Who, perhaps, should read his own past posts.)

More scare tactics. It won't affect the foreign hand-out, the crazy gang enshrined that in law, or their pay and pensions, but god help those that have contributed all their lives and have come out with very little to show for it. Clearly aimed at those more likely to vote out. Clown hasn't realised yet that threatening people just makes them more stubborn.
I wonder who pays the fabulous EU pensions of the likes of the Kinnocks and Mandelson after we leave.

IT,

If you are so capable why didn't you apply for Mandelson's or Kinnock's jobs?

Anybody betting with IG Index on BREXIT ? just checking. The bet goes from 0 to 100, so if you have say a £1 per point bet @ 10p and OUT win , will your profit be £90

There are two EU referendum polls in the Sunday papers – YouGov in the Sunday Times and Opinium in the Observer. Both of them have the race neck-and-neck: YouGov have REMAIN 49%, LEAVE 51%, Opinium have REMAIN 51%, LEAVE 49%.

In both cases the topline figures are pretty much unchanged from figures a week ago, remaining roughly neck-and-neck. There is certainly no echo of that ten point Leave lead ORB produced on Friday.

interesting