Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Update - Labour lead at 5
by YouGov in Politics
Fri December 20, 2013 6 a.m. GMT

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 19th December - Con 34%, Lab 39%, LD 11%, UKIP 12%;

If you made a mistake this year of buying Christmas presents for your kids/grandchildren, then here's a motivational clip of a 3yr old kid playing the drums.

He's accompanying a 'Guns n' Roses' number called 'Sweet Child o' Mine':

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Hays loves his Mickey Mouse Economy, he even suggested we would overtake Germany as the 4th strongest economy. He he he ha ha ha ho ho ho.

You carry on believing all the false Tory claims on the economies main agenda and then come election night you are going to get the biggest shock of your life.

" He also briefly worked for a week at Selfridges, mainly re-folding towels "

Fred looking down at the working class doing a low paid job , from Fred the Champagne socilist

Election - clear Conservative majority with UKIP nowhere with zero MPs.

Micheal Portillio = sad man on a train

Haystack = sad man in a off license

choo choo

Fred , MoneyAM's Derek Hatton

Manuel.

Well you got that load off you chest, you bowels must have been twisted with bile.

What did they put in your and Hazy's mince pies. Must have been what was left when you cleared up after the Bullingdon Old Boys club.

Are things going badly for you as you seem to be reverting to "natural self"?

Why not hop off down to the Con party's HQ with the Hazyone and get the next lot of spiel to swallow?

fos-fred - i have merely stated what an awful lot of people on this site think of you .... frankly, and as stated several times before, you're nowt but a pompous, pontificating prig

26 December

Blair ally Patrick Diamond tells Ed Miliband: cost of living will not win Labour the 2015 election

Ed Miliband has been warned by a prominent Blairite that his campaign on the “living standards crisis” will not win Labour the 2015 election because the party lacks credibility on the economy.

Patrick Diamond, a former Downing Street policy adviser to Tony Blair and Gordon Brown, said Britain’s return to growth and an expected rise in wages next year would hand George Osborne the “trump card” unless Labour acts quickly.

Allies of Mr Blair are worried that the strategy pursued by Mr Miliband and Ed Balls, the shadow Chancellor, will crumble as a recovering economy boosts the Conservatives’ prospects.

Mr Diamond wrote: “Months of adept opposition campaigning on ‘the cost of living’ have been brutally swept aside by a slew of positive economic data – alongside the hard economic choices with which the Chancellor is confronting Labour.”

He added: “Unless it can adapt its position in response to fast-changing events, the hallmark of any adroit opposition, Labour will be behind before the contest is properly under way.

Last week, Mr Balls launched a “zero-based spending review”, saying he wanted to put the nation’s budget back into surplus. But he hinted that he might not reveal the detail of his spending cuts until after the election and said he would not be drawn into an “auction” with Mr Osborne on welfare cuts.

He expressed fears that the Chancellor’s Autumn Statement this month might prove to be the moment Labour lost the next election

7 December

Ed Miliband was last night accused of displaying contempt for voters after his polling guru said their anti-immigration views made him ‘depressed’.

James Morris made a series of scornful remarks after holding a focus group meeting intended to help the party devise Election-winning policies on the issue.

Mr Morris, a key member of the Labour leader’s strategy unit, dismissed the views of those present as ‘fill jobs with Brits’.

His outburst reflects tensions among Mr Miliband’s team over immigration. The party is haunted by claims that the last Labour Government was responsible for mass immigration from Eastern Europe – and divided over whether Mr Miliband should take a stronger line.

Mr Morris, a former No 10 adviser to Tony Blair at the time of the ‘open-door’ policy, used the social-networking website Twitter to announce on Monday evening: ‘Recipe for a miserable evening: off to do focus groups on immigration.’

And afterwards, he wrote, in a line dripping with sarcasm: ‘Tonight’s focus groups as progressive as I hoped,’ adding: ‘Their plan: end migration and fill jobs with Brits who have to take job.’

He declared that it had left him ‘depressed, as you might imagine’.

The liberal views on immigration of many of Labour’s frontbenchers are not shared by most voters.

In a recent opinion poll, 72 per cent of respondents favoured slamming the door on unskilled immigrants, while 59 per cent thought we should allow fewer relatives of people already living in Britain into the country to join them.

The findings forced Mr Miliband to announce that, if he wins the next Election, he will introduce measures to help British workers.

Last night, Conservative MP Nadhim Zahawi said of Mr Morris’s remarks: ‘This shows the contempt Labour and Ed Miliband have for the public. They don’t want to hear people’s views about immigration.

'Instead they want to censor and shut down any sensible and rational debate on an extremely important subject.

‘It’s the same old Labour. Anyone who doesn’t share their world view is mocked and attacked.’

A spokesman for Ed Miliband declined to comment.

i can't think off-hand of any politicians in the current parliament whom one could admire or even feel that (s)he was better than second-rate .... in honesty, i am afraid that this is nearly always the case and is why politicians are held in such low esteem

however, one could say the same of car salesmen (sorry chaps), but despite that, one still buys a car, even if only as a necessity .... a similar case can be made for voting

cynic

Don't you mean prick [prig ] but to Fred it still read's the same, his Dyleck tic

prig is exactly the word i wanted

do you (we) not find it strange that this stalwart promoter of far-left socialist idealism is not singing the praises of francois hollande and his policies?
i wonder why

Was Nadhim Zahawi the con party MP who was attempting to charge the tax payer for heating his stable for his horses?

Perhaps, he should clean his own stable out and then have a look at one or more of his own party followers.

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Manuel, if you read back through your gibberish posting you may find that you scatter your "opinions" widely and frequently. (No objection.)

As I have written before, to me you appear the equivalent of "a rent a mouth", or perhaps on second thoughts you may be looked upon as the Con party's "Godfrey Bloom".

Only the latter did have a sense of humour according to some.

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Of course you don't have to agree with me, or vote for UKIP.

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But it is interesting that the likes of Cameron, Osborne and the Hazyone started off three years ago, when not having won an election against a "worn out" government" started by blaming Labour, from the beginning, for their own failing and U-turning policies, reverting to attempting to denigrate those of opposing views as as some over grown public school boys tend to do. (The reuniting of the nasty little boys party.)

Having failed to attract the public, the next and even lower form of their and often your method of argument is by playing the scapegoat card, attacking the most defenceless in society and of course the immigrants, ie. those "different" to themselves and identifiable, for the ills of the economy and once again their own failing.

(It is the Bloody Johnny Foreigners and unemployed and dependent, who are the reason for ALL YOUR PROBLEMS. This approach stinks to me and I would expect many of the Labour, Lib/Dem and more moderate political parties.)

It seems many of the con and UKIP parties would be more at home in the BNP.

(At least the latter group appear to have a veneer of honesty missing in the present leadership of the modern tory party.)

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Manuel, I think would benefit from defining and reviewing for himself what he understands by "left-wing socialism", before his next bleat, rather than continuing to demonstrate his own ignorance.

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8-)

Does anyone here really think there are 600k
+ jobs available?

fossy - we all hear incessantly (rather like tinnitus) about what you think of our current gov't, so what's your opinion of monsieur hollande? ..... surely he stands for all your socialist ideals that you spout on (and on and on and on) about, so why are you not singing his praises? ..... for sure, many if not the overwhelming majority here would vote for you to go and live in france, or better still, in the kerguelen islands

try answering some questions put to you, instead of blathering and griping about what a rotten job the present gov't is doing - which i would remind you, you helped to vote in by default

PS.

Manuel,

Didn't realise the mantle of State Interrogator or Inquisitor had fallen on you.

You infer I disperse too many opinions and then you ask for more.

Try to be consistent.

Remember, that even I have the right to claim the 5th amendment, or have the rules been changed.

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By the way, I doubt that many who know me would consider me a prig and my family and friends often freely point out my failings and weaknesses and some of the “sins” I commit and enjoy.

Again, I think you are confused when labelling the presentation of critical observations, challenges and views, when they do not coincide with your own highly self-held opinions as pompous and priggish.

Perhaps, you don’t realise that others and myself are in your language “taking the piss out of you”.

But, I would never use such language.

so incapable of answering a fairly simple question then ... or at least one would have thought it to be for one of your undoubted superior intellect
PS - i still think the adjective "prig" fits you to a T

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/franois-hollande-heading-for-crisis-as-he-fails-to-deliver-his-promise-to-reduce-unemployment-9026278.html

François Hollande heading for crisis as he fails to deliver his promise to reduce unemployment

The French President staked his political credibility on a fall in the number of unemployed by the end of the year, but the figures are not going his way. What now for France’s increasingly unpopular leader, asks John Lichfield

Thursday 26 December 2013

President François Hollande suffered a blow tonight to what remains of his credibility with news that he had failed to deliver his promise to reduce unemployment by the end of this year.

Anxiously awaited jobless figures for November showed that the number of people without employment in France had increased by 17,500, almost wiping out a modest a reduction in French dole queues in October.

Tonight’s news made a chilling close to an annus horribilis for Mr Hollande, whose approval ratings have fallen faster and further in 2013 than for any head of state since France switched to a presidential system 50 years ago.