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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

dreamcatcher - 28 Dec 2013 21:01 - 34646 of 81564

I do and Fred does :-)) France have tried to spend their way out of recession just like our Labour party suggested but to no avail. Barley out of recession and unemployment not being reduced. They are now in the same predicament as we would of been in. Fred had this debate about labour months ago with me. France have spent millions of euros on infrastructure to help the economy and unemployment ? With very little growth predicted on the horizon.
Starting to show the Cons were right not to go recklessly spending on credit.

Go on give us a load of wind Fred ---------------------------------------

Fred1new - 28 Dec 2013 21:28 - 34647 of 81564

That is why our DEBT is getting bigger!

France W/S.

dreamcatcher - 28 Dec 2013 21:29 - 34648 of 81564

Rubbish

dreamcatcher - 28 Dec 2013 21:31 - 34649 of 81564

dreamcatcher - 28 Dec 2013 21:34 - 34650 of 81564

Twisting answers again. :-)) Politicians do that, never answer the question put to them and just waffle on.

dreamcatcher - 28 Dec 2013 21:43 - 34651 of 81564

Wait for it, a lot more wind forecast -------------------------

Haystack - 28 Dec 2013 22:17 - 34652 of 81564

Our GDP is increasing!

This is France

French GDP shrinks in third quarter
Wednesday, 25 December 2013

The French national statistics bureau Insee on Tuesday confirmed a negative performance of Europe's main powerhouse during the third quarter of the year on weak exports and poor investment.

For the July-September period, France's gross domestic product (GDP) shrank 0.1 percent, compared to a 0.6 percent growth for the previous quarter, the agency added.

Investment in the eurozone's second largest economy declined by 0.4 percent with cash of non-financial firms down by 2.1 percent for the third quarter.

French exports fell by 1.3 percent after having expanded 1.9 percent in the second quarter while imports grew by 0.9 percent, contributing to a negative trade balance.

The growth of households' expenditure slowed by 0.3 percentage points to stand at 0.1 percent in the third quarter, the report added.

Insee lowered the 2013 full-year growth forecast of the French economy to 0.1 percent from a previous estimation of 0.2 percent, adding more pressure on the government to recover with rampant unemployment exceeding 10 percent.

goldfinger - 29 Dec 2013 05:42 - 34653 of 81564

MailOnline - news,politics.. Saturday, Dec 28 2013 3AM

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cynic - 29 Dec 2013 07:12 - 34654 of 81564

fossy - now tell us your views on hollande and explain how his wonderful left-socialist policies are so brilliant and are benefitting france

Stan - 29 Dec 2013 08:44 - 34655 of 81564

Typical pathetic "Con" party tactics of desperately trying to deflect the "evidence" away from themselves, from the usual suspects alert!

MaxK - 29 Dec 2013 08:58 - 34656 of 81564



Britons ready to welcome migrants from Bulgaria and Romania, poll finds

Ipsos Mori survey shows 72% of people aged 35-44 support rights of east European workers to live and work in UK


Daniel Boffey, policy editor


The Observer, Saturday 28 December 2013 19.15 GMT

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/dec/29/bulgaria-romania-migrants-uk-poll


Romanians and Bulgarians coming to the UK on New Year's Day will be welcomed by more than two-thirds of Britons if they integrate and work hard, a new poll suggests ahead of restrictions on them being lifted.

In spite of a surge of anti-immigrant rhetoric from leading politicians, British people are happy to accept migrants from the east of Europe who learn English, get a job, pay taxes and become part of their local community.

As many as 68% of those asked said they would be happy for migrants to come on those terms. That sentiment was particularly strong among people aged between 35 and 44, with 72% supporting their right to come to live and work in the UK.

The Ipsos Mori poll for the thinktank British Future comes in the wake of an intervention in the Observer by the president of Bulgaria, Rosen Plevneliev, who warned the British government not to abandon its traditional tolerance of immigrants in favour of isolation.

The business secretary, Vince Cable, responded to Plevneliev by accusing David Cameron and members of the Conservative party of adopting harmful "populist" immigration policies, such as a potential cap on EU migration and a proposed block on taking in migrants from countries with a GDP less than 75% of the UK's.

Yet, despite a barrage of negative publicity about the arrival of migrants from Romania and Bulgaria, the new poll finds that only one in four Britons (24%) believe that restricting the free movement of people, while staying in the EU, should be one of the government's priorities. A similar proportion (26%) said leaving the EU should be a priority if it does not change its rules on allowing people to come to the UK.

Nearly half (45%) said that enforcing the minimum wage was one of the most important ways of stopping business undercutting British workers by paying European workers less. Around one in five (22%) believed in the importance of managing the impact of immigration by, for example, giving more support to areas heavily affected.

The polling also showed that, while a significant majority did want a tightening of the welfare system (63%), just 2% of those asked believed that there was nothing migrants from Romania and Bulgaria could do to be accepted. This compares with 69% who said that learning the English language should be a priority for migrants, and 64% who said getting a job and paying taxes were among the key things to do.

Sunder Katwala, director of British Future, said: "I think the findings show that Romanian and Bulgarian migrants coming to work and play by the rules are welcomed; that coming to work, and not claiming before they've paid in, seems more important to people than rewriting the free movement rules or getting out of Europe, though both are legitimate long-term debates."

Meanwhile a YouGov poll of opinion leaders, organised by the all-party campaign group British Influence, also found that 81% did not feel that Cameron was talking enough about the benefits of EU membership ahead of a possible referendum in 2017.

Lord (Geoffrey) Howe, who served as chancellor and foreign secretary to Margaret Thatcher, said: "Sadly, by repeated concessions to the Eurosceptics, the government made its own position on Europe, and in Europe, more difficult."

The Bulgarian minister of labour, Hassan Ademov, told the Observer he believed the prime minister was being led into nationalistic rhetoric by the popularity of the UK Independence party. He said he did not believe there would be an influx to the UK, but revealed that the Bulgarian and British governments have agreed to work together to ensure that companies registered both in Bulgaria and the UK are prevented from exploiting the potential for cheap labour. They have also agreed to clamp down on any potential welfare fraud in a new "letter of intention" signed by both governments.

Ademov, who met employment minister Esther McVey this month to discuss the terms of the agreement, said the UK government's attitude to Bulgarian and Romanian citizens so far had been "categorically unacceptable".

He added: "My view is that the main explanation for what has been happening is that it is party election rhetoric and there is a race between the parties. God and the European commission between them have given Bulgaria and Romania the honour of having the transitional controls lifted just six months before the elections for the European parliament."

MaxK - 29 Dec 2013 09:06 - 34657 of 81564

http://www.britishfuture.org/

Fred1new - 29 Dec 2013 09:24 - 34658 of 81564

As the public see Wavey Davey and crew,

Fred1new - 29 Dec 2013 09:51 - 34659 of 81564

Content of Post 34658 shows how out of touch the deluded elitist bunch the present Con party is.

Wavey Dave useless as a PM and and useless as a PR agent and cannot flog his policies to the voters.

Yet, despite a barrage of negative publicity about the arrival of migrants from Romania and Bulgaria, the new poll finds that only one in four Britons (24%) believe that restricting the free movement of people, while staying in the EU, should be one of the government's priorities. A similar proportion (26%) said leaving the EU should be a priority if it does not change its rules on allowing people to come to the UK.

Nearly half (45%) said that enforcing the minimum wage was one of the most important ways of stopping business undercutting British workers by paying European workers less. Around one in five (22%) believed in the importance of managing the impact of immigration by, for example, giving more support to areas heavily affected.

ExecLine - 29 Dec 2013 09:57 - 34660 of 81564

No wonder I keep putting on weight. I am going to stop using shampoo. Just the jobbie for my New Year Resolution.

It says on the back of the bottle, "For extra body and volume".

I have decided to use dishwashing detergent instead. On the back of that bottle it says, "Cuts straight through fat to help with its easy removal".

Simples.

MaxK - 29 Dec 2013 09:57 - 34661 of 81564

You don't take that article seriously do you Fred?

ExecLine - 29 Dec 2013 10:03 - 34662 of 81564

For Fred. Become 'Sir Fred' ready for the New Year:

Titles for Sale - only £14

MaxK - 29 Dec 2013 10:08 - 34663 of 81564

The Lord of Nowhere At All.

Fred1new - 29 Dec 2013 10:22 - 34664 of 81564

Never had that ambition.
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Leave medals and gongs for the elitists who need them to bolster their opinions of themselves.

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Fred1new - 29 Dec 2013 10:26 - 34665 of 81564

The Romanians and Bulgarians are coming and the Cons are being found out and UKIP are saying:


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