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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

ptholden - 11 Jan 2011 20:58 - 4103 of 6906

No wonder we're fecked.

I take it you're Pastor Danny Gausie? :-)

IanT(MoneyAM) - 12 Jan 2011 10:19 - 4104 of 6906

Gausie,

sorry had to remove your last post as something in it was causing the text entry box on the post not to display,

Ian

tabasco - 12 Jan 2011 10:22 - 4105 of 6906

For a minute I got excited!

tabasco - 12 Jan 2011 10:27 - 4106 of 6906

Gausie getting removed.the eleventh commandment

yuff - 17 Jan 2011 10:09 - 4107 of 6906

The fightback has started-wonderful speech.

http://polipundit.com/?p=28172

Haystack - 19 Jan 2011 23:00 - 4108 of 6906

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12218809

Palestinian bid to take Israeli settlement row to UN

Arab nations have formally submitted a resolution to the UN Security Council that condemns Israeli settlement building in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem, which the United States will almost certainly veto if it is brought to a vote.

"The American administration is of course aware that a veto wouldn't be a good solution," says a UN diplomat. "They'd be vetoing a resolution which is saying what the US administration has been saying for the last 18 months."

What the Palestinians have is a fair bit of international support. An independent monitoring group, the Security Council Report, predicts that upwards of 100 nations would co-sponsor the settlement resolution, and most of the Security Council members would support it.

In The Land of the B - 19 Jan 2011 23:06 - 4109 of 6906

haycrapper released into Care in the Community again.

Haystack - 19 Jan 2011 23:54 - 4110 of 6906

"With the stalemate in the American-led negotiations, Palestinian officials have indeed begun to pursue a more internationalist approach, lobbying for widespread recognition of their state. The plan is to request full membership at the UN when support reaches a critical mass. "

"Given such global backing (seven Latin American states have recognised a Palestinian state in the last month), many Palestinians think their leaders should ditch an ally that they believe has protected Israel far more than it has them."

"The bottom line is that to bring the settlement resolution to a vote, the Palestinians would have to be ready to confront not only Israel, but the United States. It would be a real problem for the West Bank leadership to alienate its closest ally and main financier.

But polls show most Palestinians oppose a return to negotiations without some action on settlements, so it may be an even bigger problem for the leadership to do nothing."

In The Land of the B - 20 Jan 2011 09:17 - 4111 of 6906

Pretty picture, parrot.

Haystack - 20 Jan 2011 12:23 - 4112 of 6906

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12212907

Russia reaffirms recognition of Palestinian state

The Russian president, on a rare visit to the West Bank, has reaffirmed Moscow's recognition of an independent Palestinian state.

Dmitry Medvedev said Russia had recognised the state in 1988 and his country's position remained unchanged.

Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas is seeking the country's support for a tougher stance towards Jewish settlements at the UN Security Council.

"We remember that Russia was one of the first states in the world to recognise the state of Palestine in 1988," Mr Abbas said at a news conference, held in Jericho, with Mr Medvedev.

The Russian president replied: "Russia made its choice a long time ago... we supported and will support the inalienable right of the Palestinian people to an independent state with its capital in East Jerusalem."

"We made our decision then and we have not changed it today," he added.

Palestinian diplomats say they are about to seek a UN resolution against continued settlement expansion in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, the issue which prompted the Palestinians to leave the negotiating table. As a permanent member of the UN Security Council, Russia has the power to veto resolutions.

The Russian leader agreed that "without some sort of reasonable [Israeli] decision concerning their settlement activity, there will be no progress".

Fred1new - 20 Jan 2011 14:17 - 4113 of 6906

Post 4112,

That could put the fly in the ointment!

Haystack - 20 Jan 2011 21:49 - 4114 of 6906

Apartheid Wall on schedule

The segregation wall which Israel is embarking on building now around the occupied city of Jerusalem will isolate about 100, 000 Palestinian natives living behind the wall from their holy city.

In a press release on Wednesday, the ministry stated that the Israeli occupation authority (IOA) will finish building the wall within one year according to the plan approved by deputy chief of staff Yair Naveh.

The ministry warned that if this wall was completed, no one would be allowed into the holy city or the 1948 occupied lands without permission from the IOA, noting that the Israeli municipal council in Jerusalem is trying to play down the Palestinian natives' fears by claiming the wall is intended for their protection.

It added that the suffering of more than 100, 000 Jerusalemite citizens living behind the wall would increase, especially since the Israeli municipal council and its institutions do not provide them with any services.

fahel - 21 Jan 2011 11:37 - 4115 of 6906

Tuesday, January 18
Paul J. Balles: Grains of sand: perspectives on roles of Israel and USA in Middle East

Gilad Atzmon

Paul J. Balles
In an article entitled "Weapons of mass deception", I suggested that there has been too much control of the mainstream media by too few people.

The result? Much gets left out, covered up or distorted to suit special interests like those of Rupert Murdoch.

In a subsequent article, I suggested reading writers in the alternative media, a facility that has grown significantly on the Internet.

As might be expected, a few knowledgeable commentators suggested that they had better choices of both websites and authors than those I offered. No doubt.

My pick of both writers and venues is based on several criteria: (1) they're honest and reliable, (2) they often provide information unavailable in the mainstream media and (3) they focus on political, social, environmental, aesthetic or educational issues that concern me.

Thus, other readers' different interests will naturally lead to different writers in different places.

In my article Grains of sand: highlights from the alternative media, I quoted a number of my favourite authors on a variety of issues coming through my lens: the establishment press, international relations, wars and threats of war, Palestine and Israel, American weaknesses and WikiLeaks.
Israel and the role of America in the Middle East
This week, I'd like to share my interest in writers who have brought important perspectives to one major issue: Israel and the role of America in the Middle East. Incidentally, six of my choice authors (three here) are Jewish.
Uri Avnery

The country [Israel] is embracing the racist demon. After millennia as the victims of racism, it seems as if Jews here are happy to be able to do unto others what has been done to them."

Franklin Lamb

The 522 hour indiscriminate carnage, Cast Lead that killed 1,417 Palestinians, mostly civilians, 352 of them children, injuring for life more than 5,300 , indicts Israel as well as those countries that continue to supply it weapons, diplomatic cover and to enforce Israels illegal siege on sealed Gaza."

Debbie Menon

"There will never be peace in the Middle East unless the US, the major force which sustains Israel, withdraws its support, and Israel loses its most important and essential crutches for its survival, the money of the American people and the lives of American soldiers!"

Mike Whitney

US foreign policy doesn't change. It is immutable, relentless and vicious. America owns the world and demands that foreign leaders obey Washington's directives. Follow orders, or else; that's all one needs to know about US foreign policy."

Jeff Blankfort

"...thanks to the unconditional backing by the US for all its crimes, and given its arsenal of nuclear weapons, I consider Israel to be the most immediate threat to the future of the planet."

Alan Hart

"If it is the case that American presidents are frightened of provoking Israel, the conclusion would have to be that the Zionist state is a monster beyond control and that all efforts for peace are doomed to failure."

Gilad Atzmon

"Israeli Behaviour should be realized as the ultimate vulgar biblical barbarism on the verge of cannibalism. Israel is nothing but evilness for the sake of evilness. It is wickedness with no comparison."

James Petras

"We are a people colonized and directed by a small, extremist and militarist ally [srael] which operates through domestic proxies, who, under any other circumstance, would be openly denounced as traitors."

Richard Falk

"We have witnessed the carnage of 'pre-emptive war' and 'preventive war' in Iraq, but we have yet to explore the moral and political imperatives of 'pre-emptive peace' and 'preventive peace.' How long must the peoples of the world wait?"

http://www.redress.cc/global/pjballes20110116

yuff - 21 Jan 2011 17:34 - 4116 of 6906

yawn fahel-oh dear same old garbage spewed out again and again and again.

In The Land of the B - 21 Jan 2011 17:41 - 4117 of 6906

yep, crapola propaganda, crapola propaganda, crapola propaganda zzzzzzzzz................

Haystack - 21 Jan 2011 18:53 - 4118 of 6906

ITLOTB
And I thought it was your silly socialist nutters that had the propaganda.

It is quite simple. Israel is someone else's country and stealing their land day by day, torturing their residents and indulging in ethnic cleansing.

Haystack - 21 Jan 2011 19:03 - 4119 of 6906

The Israeli army acquitted an Israeli soldier who Killed Omar Al-Qawasmi, 65, in his sleep in Al-Khalil two weeks ago and discharged another who joined in the shooting of the old man.

The media sources that published the report did not mention the fact that the soldiers did not alert Qawasmi, who was sleeping, before shooting him.

cynic - 22 Jan 2011 08:49 - 4120 of 6906

in simple terms what we have in this manipulated shambles in israel/gaza is the application of deuteronomic law

Haystack - 22 Jan 2011 12:30 - 4121 of 6906

Rather it is the attempted use of deuteronomic law.

cynic - 22 Jan 2011 16:10 - 4122 of 6906

by both!
today's saudi paper made interesting reading, for the letters page was very balanced on this subject and surrounding aspects - which is more than can be said for this thread
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