Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Not activating Article 50, a second referendum to stay. Apparently there ar no rules that say we can activate Article 50 and then change our minds while in the two years plus period.

Haystack while you might like a second referendum there are 17.5 million people who wouldn't .

No. I don't want a second referendum, but I wouldn't be surprised if we had one. I want to be out of the EU.

Could have fooled me.

I am just being realistic.

Maybe if you kept the EU out cap on instead of removing it depending on what suits a particular individual at the time . You are very confusing to say the least , stick to one side please Haystack .

a 2nd referendum would be truly preposterous and throw the whole exercise into disrepute
as one makes one bed, so must one lie in it

I have seen the games that are played in parliament close up. I was working in Westminster as part of Ken Clarke's campaign team when he stood for leader in 2005.

I do think a second referendum would be a mistake and would bring democracy into disrepute. That, of course, would not prevent it from happening.

I wonder what the feeling across the country would be if we go into a recession, house prices fall, unemployment rises. These are all thing that are on the cards over the next few years even before we leave the EU.

Only the last two days, two major Property funds (Aviva today) have stopped trading due to liquidity problems. It may be up to 2 years before people can withdraw funds from them. They may both have forced sales of their commercial property at low prices due to lack of business confidence.

I was Maggie Thatchers right hand man ,we were in love back then .

If one makes a contract on falsified information, as could be argued has happened during the referendum, I think that a court of law may look kindly on the submission to nullify the contract.

Sky reporting just now that a recession is odds on for the end of this year.

I wonder how long the EU will wait for us to actually start to leave , If I was them I'd throw us out . Even Merkel has said get on with it ffs . Is this the beginning of the end or the end of the beginning or erm something . If a picture paints a thousand words then why can't i paint EU . It takes two to tango , What's love got to do with it .Virgin on the ridiculous .

the same could be said of any general election stretching back centuries!

Being reported that Fox will be eliminated this evening (no surprise) and Gove may quit.

It will be interesting to see if MPs vote for Crabb in the next roudn to keep Andrea out of the last two. If they do then they will have an all Remainer contest for leader.

Keep your betting money in your pocket on this one, Haystack.

From: http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/686406/Tory-leadership-race-Conservative-Home-poll-Andrea-Leadsom-Theresa-May
By Nick Gutteridge
PUBLISHED: 12:19, Tue, Jul 5, 2016 | UPDATED: 12:58, Tue, Jul 5, 2016

LEADSOM LEADS: New poll of Tory activists shows Brexiteer BEATING Theresa May for PM



ANDREA Leadsom has surged ahead of Theresa May in the race to become Britain's next Prime Minister, a bombshell poll suggests.

This is getting ridiculous ,what is the matter with everyone ? read my lips, we are leaving the EU ,the British people voted OUT ,end of story.

And yes we could change the result of any future election if this was overturned .

Conservative Home is a very biased site. I have been following their nonsense for a few weeks now.

You were saying without doubt that we would remain Haystack so i wouldn't bet your money.

You have to admire Haystack , he just doesn't give a feck what other people think just keeps banging on and on .