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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Haystack - 10 Feb 2011 18:36 - 4289 of 6906

I have watched Arab TV for years. I have a steerable sat dish. I watched direct uploads from the first gulf war in 1991 before they were edited for UK TV. I used to see the journalists doing set ups for broadcasts while there were incoming missiles and Kate Aide getting her make up put on in the back of an armoured PC.

Once again I have no anti-semitic beliefs. Why would I? You seem to be the parrot. All you can repeat is "Nazi" or "Anti-semitic" with no evidence. I am anti Israel (actually VERY anti Israel), but not anti Jewish.

Press TV is mostly a lot of nonsense. Aljazeera is a good service though. They have many ex BBC and Sky staff.

cynic - 10 Feb 2011 19:24 - 4290 of 6906

surely an oxymoron ..... Press TV is mostly a lot of nonsense. Aljazeera is a good service ..... ????????????????

Haystack - 10 Feb 2011 20:17 - 4291 of 6906

Why an oxymoron? Do you watch either of them. Press TV is a mouthpiece for Iran. Aljazeera is a very good channel.

You can watch Aljazeera here

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

cynic - 10 Feb 2011 20:37 - 4292 of 6906

sorry; thought you meant general tv coverage ..... never heard of Press TV and yes, i too listen to aljazeera from time to time especially when in m/e

Haystack - 10 Feb 2011 20:42 - 4293 of 6906

Press TV is on channel 515 on SKY sat decoders just after Al Jazeera. It is not quite as bad as you might think. Apparantly 100 million people watch the Al Jazeera English broadcast version. You can watch it in the US and Canada apart from Europe and the ME.

http://www.presstv.ir/

Stan - 10 Feb 2011 21:12 - 4294 of 6906

Thanks for the link H, the crowd won't like that.

cynic - 10 Feb 2011 21:14 - 4295 of 6906

mubarak still clinging on ..... not good news at all for anyone

ValueMax - 10 Feb 2011 21:20 - 4296 of 6906

What will it take to make him understand he must go?

Army involvement?

In The Land of the B - 10 Feb 2011 22:07 - 4297 of 6906

I'm surprised hay crapper isn't accusing Israel of controlling Mubarak.

In The Land of the B - 10 Feb 2011 22:17 - 4298 of 6906

Why do I think crapper's a nazi...........he wants the only Jewish state in the world liquidated, destroyed. Does he say that about any Muslim, Christian, Hindu, secular state........no, of course not. Look at a map of the Arab Middle East and North Africa.
Look at the sliver of land that is Israel. Its presence outrages him and he wants it wiped off the map.
He's happy to ignore the unfairnesses and injustices endemic in Muslim countries or their crazy borders drawn by imperial or colonial powers regardless of cultural, social, religious or tribal differences.
No, just wipe Israel out. That's what makes parrot a rabid anti-semite.
Personally I would like to see a world in which religion played no part in the lives of states, or peoples for that matter, but what is, is and if the population want a state with sharia law or any religious influence on the state, then that's their choice. No-one should go around demanding that other countries obey their mores or standards. It's no-one else's business. Not the American's, the British or anyone's.

In The Land of the B - 10 Feb 2011 22:25 - 4299 of 6906

Parrot says, "I have a steerable sat dish. I watched direct uploads from the first gulf war in 1991 before they were edited for UK TV. I used to see the journalists doing set ups for broadcasts while there were incoming missiles and Kate Aide getting her make up put on in the back of an armoured PC."


Ooo...err....... bully for you Greg. You must be sooo clever........sooo special, I'm not sure whether you are just a mindless nerd or actually rather a simpleton. I suppose nazis can be both.
Your own words about your steerable (wow.....do you want normal people to be impressed......or think you have the edge on others by your voyuerism watching a reporter putting her make up on....ooo.... you are sooo special Greg) dish and your copy and paste fanaticism demonstrate how you live in a tiny cocoon and think you know it all by dint of a STEERABLE dish and an internet connection LOL
One day even you might be able to think for yourself rather than parroting third hand tired slogans.....just take the right tablets.
Or maybe you just hypnotised yourself by mistake.
No wonder they crossed you off the list of "professional" hypnotists LOL
Heil Hayes

Haystack - 10 Feb 2011 22:35 - 4300 of 6906

LOL

I don't want the destruction of Israel per se. I want the whole land shared and called Palestine. At least the changes in Egypt may bring Israel to heel.

I guess the next stage is an indifinite general strike. Even if the army clears the protestors they cannot make the population go to work.

cynic - 11 Feb 2011 07:45 - 4301 of 6906

you pre-suppose that the military supports mubarak ..... action to date suggests that this less than certain .... see also comment(s) on CEY thread

Stan - 11 Feb 2011 08:26 - 4302 of 6906

As far as the military is concerned it will probably come down to how much bribery is being pushed there way. Interesting to see it unfold all the same.

mnamreh - 11 Feb 2011 08:33 - 4303 of 6906

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cynic - 11 Feb 2011 08:40 - 4304 of 6906

the military will have its own agenda, though don't forget that it is made up of people and not automatons ...... that the markets are better than calm is good news and i hear, probably correctly, that talks (with whom?) are currently taking place with the military

Stan - 11 Feb 2011 08:45 - 4305 of 6906

Everyone to there own but I rarely find some History anything but fascinating mn.

mnamreh - 11 Feb 2011 08:51 - 4306 of 6906

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Stan - 11 Feb 2011 09:01 - 4307 of 6906

Yes indeed it would.

Fred1new - 11 Feb 2011 09:38 - 4308 of 6906

I thought Mubarak had been caught with his trousers down and "thought" that like all good ex-dictators, was trying to export the wealth he and his family had extorted from his country.

His son and part of the family had left the country over 10 days ago.

Anybody know which country?

I hope this confrontation does not end in bloodshed, but it is beginning to become nastier.

There seems to be some organisation of the "reformists" and as expected it has provoked strikes, which could make it difficult for the army to break.

But the belly still rules and the momentum must be kept up.

I had hoped that the strikes would effect the power supplies and media earlier.

Good luck to the those who believe in a transition to a "democratic" state.

If you look at the Balkan states you may have some model, even if those state have a long way to go..

Also some may remember the bloodless Carnation Revolution of Portugal and the replacement with a representative government.

Also think of the relatively "Bloodless revolution" of Spain from a dictatorship after Franco to a "Democracy".


In Portugal and Spain the "new states" used the "state apparatchiks".

Still slowly removing them.

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