Fred1new
- 06 Jan 2009 19:21
Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?
If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?
Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?
What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?
Fred1new
- 11 Feb 2011 11:22
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N.
Just my opinion:
It seems to me that for a revolution to occur. It is necessary to have some or all of the following ;-
1) either an autocratic, or plutocratic government,
2) a completely incompetent government, which is detached from the populace.
3) a populace which has ongoing and increasing dissatisfaction and resentment of its rulers.
4) a grossly materially unequal society
5) a society where the rights of the individuals within the society are obviously tilted to a plutocratic self perpetuating hierarchy.
6) a form of communication for the dissenters to orchestrate and symbolise the major dissatisfactions and injustices.
7) numerous initial leaders, who are able to work together for the cause and are prepared to and initially able to put their personal ambitions behind them.
However, the most important things are empty bellies, lack of opportunities and reasonable expectancies to be able to improve on their present situations without revolt.
In the present situation in Egypt, you have all of the above with the added exposure and organising effect of the internet and media etc..
You mention international military intervention in reference to the Balkans. I think the reporting of the recent Balkans changes have generally been superficial. What happened in Yugoslavia was thought by many likely to occur for many years before Tito died. (I was in Yugoslavia before Titos death and in private conversations discussed such possibilities. In addition, I had politically active friends in this country who thought the same. (Tito, himself, foresaw this possibility and did attempt to put into the constitution steps to try and reduce the likely-hood of what has happened.~)
Tinkering, by the West has probably little effect on the inevitable, other than speeding up the actions.
I think the Iraq situation is different, but the revolution is continuing there.
Iran, it was obvious for years that the puppet government of the Shah would fall. The external tinkering of Britain and America came to nothing, other than providing the environment for a more radical change.
But I wonder if our government is setting up similar conditions as mention previously. It doesnt have to be violent, but the back lash from some of its present policies may be more severe than expected.
(I have lived through interesting times.)
Now back to my Veal Paprika.
mnamreh
- 11 Feb 2011 11:33
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Haystack
- 11 Feb 2011 12:21
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Here is a very instructive article about Suleiman. There is plenty of evidence that he has actually been running Egypt for the past few years.
"In Egypt, as Habib recounts in his memoir, My Story: The Tale of a Terrorist Who Wasnt, he was repeatedly subjected to electric shocks, immersed in water up to his nostrils and beaten. His fingers were broken and he was hung from metal hooks. At one point, his interrogator slapped him so hard that his blindfold was dislodged, revealing the identity of his tormentor: Suleiman."
http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/02/201127114827382865.html
Haystack
- 11 Feb 2011 15:16
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On Twitter
"Uninstalling Murabak - 99.9% complete
Remove Murabak and try again"
In The Land of the B
- 11 Feb 2011 16:03
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So now you spend your life steering a sat dish, copying and pasting off the internet and now the same with twitter.
Is there nothing original in your mind, parrot?
Stan
- 11 Feb 2011 16:09
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Murabak steps down.
Haystack
- 11 Feb 2011 16:17
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Has Suleiman gone though? The army is in control, but he is General Suleiman.
Stan
- 11 Feb 2011 16:22
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Doubt it, he will be the next I expect.
Stan
- 11 Feb 2011 16:28
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Apparently the announcement came after the masses had just stopped praying, hope they don't put it down to an act of one of there gods -):
Stan
- 11 Feb 2011 16:34
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There are strong rumours that Murabak will would go to Scotland.. but he hosni.
Haystack
- 11 Feb 2011 16:46
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"Hamas congratulates the Egyptian people on their achievement. Rallies in Gaza in celebration of the success of the Egyptian revolution."
Stan
- 11 Feb 2011 16:49
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Been in charge for 30 years apparently, that's 3 Hilda Thatchers for christ sake -):
Haystack
- 11 Feb 2011 16:51
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And they have been under emergency powers for 30 years. That is arrest anyone for any reason and hold them as long as the government wants.
Haystack
- 11 Feb 2011 16:54
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A Turkish government inquiry into Israel's raid on a Gaza-bound flotilla that killed eight Turks and a Turkish-American said Israeli soldiers shot five victims from close range.
The report released Friday said two of the victims were killed even before soldiers boarded the Turkish ship in May. The report said Israel blatantly violated international laws.
Israeli commandos raided the flotilla as it sought to break Israel's Gaza blockade. Israel says the commandos were defending themselves.
In The Land of the B
- 11 Feb 2011 17:00
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Obsessive
In The Land of the B
- 11 Feb 2011 17:19
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Crapper, can't you simply be happy for the Egyptian people today, or is your hatred of Israel and Jews just so compelling you're unable to control it.
Typical nazi.
Haystack
- 11 Feb 2011 17:51
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Switzerland has frozen assets thought to belong to Mubarak.
I am pleased for the people in Egypt. I am also pleased for the Palestinians, the inhabitants of Gaza and the moderate people in israel. We now need an uprising of the Palestinians in the West Bank and throw out Abbas, the PA and Fatah. Hepefully, in the fullness of time, Egypt will come the the aid of Gaza if Israel invades Gaza again. Don't forget that Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood.
Haystack
- 11 Feb 2011 17:57
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Wikileaks has revealed a confidential document leaked from the US embassy in Tel Aviv telling that Omar Suleiman, the former Egypt's intelligence chief, promised the Israelis not to let Hamas win the 2006 PA legislative elections, according to the Norwegian Aftenposten newspaper.
According to the paper that published the Wikileaks revelation, Suleiman pledged to exert all efforts to prevent any possible victory for Hamas in the PA legislative elections after polls revealed that it would sweep the elections.
However, the leaked document didnt mention the mechanism that Suleiman would follow to derail the elections, but Gilad was reportedly confident that his Egyptian friend would fulfill his promise.
But Hamas won the elections and Suleiman failed to keep his promise after more than 1000 observers, including 185 Europeans and Americans, witnessed the elections that was described as the most democratic, most honest, and most transparent in the Arab region, another leaked document from the US embassy revealed.
cynic
- 11 Feb 2011 21:23
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usual rubbish from the usual suspects here, but all has actually panned out rather as expected ..... that said, the next few months will be interesting and i just hope my prediction of a fundamentalist state within 5 years turns out to be badly inaccurate
fahel
- 13 Feb 2011 21:46
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Hillary Clinton speaks out about US links with Taliban
One of the most serious statement about the forming and funding of Salafi Wahhabi .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2CE0fyz4ys