Fred1new
- 06 Jan 2009 19:21
Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?
If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?
Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?
What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?
In The Land of the B
- 11 Feb 2011 16:03
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So now you spend your life steering a sat dish, copying and pasting off the internet and now the same with twitter.
Is there nothing original in your mind, parrot?
Stan
- 11 Feb 2011 16:09
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Murabak steps down.
Haystack
- 11 Feb 2011 16:17
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Has Suleiman gone though? The army is in control, but he is General Suleiman.
Stan
- 11 Feb 2011 16:22
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Doubt it, he will be the next I expect.
Stan
- 11 Feb 2011 16:28
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Apparently the announcement came after the masses had just stopped praying, hope they don't put it down to an act of one of there gods -):
Stan
- 11 Feb 2011 16:34
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There are strong rumours that Murabak will would go to Scotland.. but he hosni.
Haystack
- 11 Feb 2011 16:46
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"Hamas congratulates the Egyptian people on their achievement. Rallies in Gaza in celebration of the success of the Egyptian revolution."
Stan
- 11 Feb 2011 16:49
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Been in charge for 30 years apparently, that's 3 Hilda Thatchers for christ sake -):
Haystack
- 11 Feb 2011 16:51
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And they have been under emergency powers for 30 years. That is arrest anyone for any reason and hold them as long as the government wants.
Haystack
- 11 Feb 2011 16:54
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A Turkish government inquiry into Israel's raid on a Gaza-bound flotilla that killed eight Turks and a Turkish-American said Israeli soldiers shot five victims from close range.
The report released Friday said two of the victims were killed even before soldiers boarded the Turkish ship in May. The report said Israel blatantly violated international laws.
Israeli commandos raided the flotilla as it sought to break Israel's Gaza blockade. Israel says the commandos were defending themselves.
In The Land of the B
- 11 Feb 2011 17:00
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Obsessive
In The Land of the B
- 11 Feb 2011 17:19
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Crapper, can't you simply be happy for the Egyptian people today, or is your hatred of Israel and Jews just so compelling you're unable to control it.
Typical nazi.
Haystack
- 11 Feb 2011 17:51
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Switzerland has frozen assets thought to belong to Mubarak.
I am pleased for the people in Egypt. I am also pleased for the Palestinians, the inhabitants of Gaza and the moderate people in israel. We now need an uprising of the Palestinians in the West Bank and throw out Abbas, the PA and Fatah. Hepefully, in the fullness of time, Egypt will come the the aid of Gaza if Israel invades Gaza again. Don't forget that Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood.
Haystack
- 11 Feb 2011 17:57
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Wikileaks has revealed a confidential document leaked from the US embassy in Tel Aviv telling that Omar Suleiman, the former Egypt's intelligence chief, promised the Israelis not to let Hamas win the 2006 PA legislative elections, according to the Norwegian Aftenposten newspaper.
According to the paper that published the Wikileaks revelation, Suleiman pledged to exert all efforts to prevent any possible victory for Hamas in the PA legislative elections after polls revealed that it would sweep the elections.
However, the leaked document didnt mention the mechanism that Suleiman would follow to derail the elections, but Gilad was reportedly confident that his Egyptian friend would fulfill his promise.
But Hamas won the elections and Suleiman failed to keep his promise after more than 1000 observers, including 185 Europeans and Americans, witnessed the elections that was described as the most democratic, most honest, and most transparent in the Arab region, another leaked document from the US embassy revealed.
cynic
- 11 Feb 2011 21:23
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usual rubbish from the usual suspects here, but all has actually panned out rather as expected ..... that said, the next few months will be interesting and i just hope my prediction of a fundamentalist state within 5 years turns out to be badly inaccurate
fahel
- 13 Feb 2011 21:46
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Hillary Clinton speaks out about US links with Taliban
One of the most serious statement about the forming and funding of Salafi Wahhabi .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2CE0fyz4ys
fahel
- 13 Feb 2011 21:48
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yuff
- 14 Feb 2011 10:01
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They warned us. The geniuses at Peace Now warned us. The brilliant
> diplomats warned us. The think tanks warned us. Even the Arab dictators
> warned us. For decades now, they have been warning us that if you want
> "peace in the Middle East ," just fix the Palestinian problem. A recent
> variation on this theme has been: Just get the Jews to stop building
> apartments in East Jerusalem and Efrat. Yes, if all those Jews in the West
> Bank and East Jerusalem would only "freeze" their construction, then,
> finally, Palestinian leaders might come to the table and peace might break
> out.
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> And what would happen if peace would break out between Jews and
> Palestinians? Would all those furious Arabs now demonstrating on streets
> across the Middle East feel any better?
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> What bloody nonsense.
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> Has there ever been a greater abuse of the English language in
> international diplomacy than calling the Israeli-Palestinian conflict the
> " Middle East peace process?" As if there were only two countries in the
> Middle East .
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> Even if you absolutely believe in the imperative of creating a Palestinian
> state, you can't tell me that the single-minded and global obsession with
> the Israeli-Palestinian conflict at the expense of the enormous ills in
> the rest of the Middle East hasn't been idiotic, if not criminally
> negligent.
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> While tens of millions of Arabs have been suffering for decades from
> brutal oppression, while gays have been tortured and writers jailed and
> women humiliated and dissidents killed, the world -- yes, the world -- has
> obsessed with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
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> As if Palestinians -- the same coddled victims on whom the world has spent
> billions and who have rejected one peace offer after another -- were the
> only victims in the Middle East .
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> As if the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has anything to do with the
> 1,000-year-old bloody conflict between Sunni and Shiite Muslims, or the
> desire of brutal Arab dictators to stay in power, or the desire of
> Islamist radicals to bring back the Caliphate, or the economic despair of
> millions, or simply the absence of free speech or basic human rights
> throughout the Arab world.
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> While self-righteous Israel bashers have scrutinized every flaw in Israel
> 's democracy -- some waxing hysterical that the Jewish democratic
> experiment in the world's nastiest neighborhood had turned into an
> embarrassment -- they kept their big mouths shut about the oppression of
> millions of Arabs throughout the Middle East .
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> They cried foul if Israeli Arabs -- who have infinitely more rights and
> freedoms than any Arabs in the Middle East -- had their rights compromised
> in any way. But if a poet were jailed in Jordan or a gay man were tortured
> in Egypt or a woman were stoned in Syria , all we heard was screaming
> silence.
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> Think of the ridiculous amount of media ink and diplomatic attention that
> has been poured onto the Israel-Palestinian conflict over the years, while
> much of the Arab world was suffering and smoldering, and tell me this is
> not criminal negligence. Do you ever recall seeing a UN resolution or an
> international conference in support of Middle Eastern Arabs not named
> Palestinians?
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> Of course, now that the Arab volcano has finally erupted, all those
> chronic Israel bashers have suddenly discovered a new cause: Freedom for
> the poor oppressed Arabs of the Middle East !
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> Imagine if, instead of putting Israel under their critical and
> hypocritical microscope, the world's Israel bashers had taken Israel 's
> imperfect democratic experiment and said to the Arab world: Why don't you
> try to emulate the Jews?
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> Why don't you give equal rights to your women and gays, just like Israel
> does?
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> Why don't you give your people the same freedom of speech and freedom to
> vote that Israel does? And offer them the economic opportunities they
> would get in Israel ? Why don't you treat your Jewish and Christian
> citizens the same way Israel treats its Arab and Christian citizens?
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> Why don't you study how Israel has struggled to balance religion with
> democracy -- a very difficult but not insurmountable task?
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> Why don't you teach your people that Jews are not the sons of dogs but a
> noble, ancient people with a 3,000-year connection to the land of Israel ?
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> Yes, imagine if Israel bashers had spent a fraction of their energy
> fighting the lies of Arab dictators and defending the rights of millions
> of oppressed Arabs. Imagine if President Obama had taken one percent of
> the time he has harped on Jewish settlements to defend the democratic
> rights of Egyptian Arabs -- which he is suddenly doing now that the
> volcano has erupted.
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> Maybe it's just easier to beat up on a free and open society like Israel .
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> Well, now that the cesspool of human oppression in the Arab world has been
> opened for all to see, how bad is Israel 's democracy looking? Don't you
> wish the Arab world had a modicum of Israel 's civil society? Would you
> still be worrying about "stability in the Middle East ?"
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> You can preach to me all you want about the great Jewish tradition of
> self-criticism -- which I believe in -- but right now, when I see poor
> Arab souls being murdered for the simple act of protesting on the street,
> I've never felt more proud of being a supporter of the Jewish state.
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Haystack
- 14 Feb 2011 11:39
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Haystack
- 15 Feb 2011 12:46
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"would only "freeze" their construction"
They are building on someone else's land don't forget. The people of Israel have no historical connection to that land. The majority of Jewish immigrants are Ashkenazi Jews who have come from or originate in Eastern Europe. This group has no ethnic connection with Israel as they are descendants of Khazars from around the Black Sea who converted to Judaism in the 8th century and migrated to Eastern Europe in the 12th and 13th centuries. There only connection is religion. The Palestinians who have been expelled from Palestine have far more claim to the land of Israel. Their right of return is denied, but people with no connection are allowed to arrive in large numbers.
Peace won't break out between Israel and the Palestinians as Israel is occupying their land and oppressing them on a daily basis.
The Arabs have been suffering across the region, but that has nothing to do with the Palestinians cause. Hopefully democracy will come to the Middle East.
Netanyahu said recently that Egypt was not ready for democracy. A bit of self interest?
The current treaty between Egypt and Israel has to stay until a new government as the army are respecting the separation of powers. Only the state can make or break treaties and not the army. Lets see how Israel likes Egypt's democracy when they support Gaza and the Palestinians.
Israel's democracy has nothing to do with the cause of the Palestinians. The populations of many Arab countries living under dictators don't live that way by choice. In many ways Israel is far more guilty of their behaviour as they live in a democratic country and the appalling things that Israel does are tolerated by the people. At least in many of the Arab countries it is just the leaders who are behaving badly. The actual populations would be not be a party to their leaders' actions if they had the chance. Comparing Israel's democracy to the dictatorships of many Arab countries you are comparing all the people of Israel with just the rulers of the Arab countries.