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MoneyAM Charity Golf Day 04/06/07 supporting Macmillan Cancer Fund (GOLF)     

Bobcolby - 19 Jan 2007 08:18

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MoneyAM Charity Golf Day June 4th 2007 supporting Macmillan Cancer Fund

Location:

Verulam Golf Club The Home of the Ryder Cup 226 London Road St Albans Hertfordshire AL1 1JG macmillan.jpg

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Dear All,

I am organising this years MoneyAM Golf Day which is in aid of the Macmillan Cancer Fund. It will be a great day out and all for a worthy cause.

Macmillan dedicates itself to giving every person in the land equal and ready access to the best information, treatment and care for cancer.

As this years event is a charity event, the total cost of the whole day will be 85 (around 20 - 25 will be donated from every entry to the Macmillan Cancer Fund). This will include all golfing activities on the day, bacon rolls on arrival, lunch, an evening dinner, and prize giving ceremony.

The winners of this years event (the afternoon's Texas Scramble) will get 1 years free subscription to MoneyAM Level 2, and the prestigious MoneyAM Annual Golf Challenge Cup which the team will share.

Second and Third place teams will each receive medals, plus 6 months worth of MoneyAM Level 2

MoneyAM will also get prizes for 1, 2, 3, nearest the pin and longest drive in the morning Stableford competition. I will present a Wooden Spoon on the day, so you should all be wary of that!

Itinerary for the Day

8.30 am onwards: Arrival at VGC Meet and greet bacon rolls on arrival

9.30 am onwards: 11 hole Stableford Tee off in groups of 3/4 from 8.30AM although I expect a number will arrive after 9.30am, either pre arranged or allocated on the day

From 12.30: Light rolling Lunch after completion of morning Stableford. Menu - Cold Meat Buffet with New Potatoes and Salad.

1.30 pm: 18 Hole Texas Scramble Pre-arranged teams of 4, each player must hit at least 3 drives and handicap is 1/8th of combined total. Individual entries will be teamed up by organiser in advance

What is Texas Scramble? This is a game of 3 or 4 player teams. All players in a team tee off then the team chooses their best drive and all 3 or 4 will play their second shot from that spot. This continues until the hole is completed, including putting out. There are many variations of handicapping and play, so I have chosen a percentage of combined HCP, with each team member taking 3 compulsory drives.

7.00 pm Evening Meal and Prize Giving:

Starter: Homemade Soup

Main: Chicken Breast with Gruyere cheese wrapped in Bacon

Dessert: Fruit crumble served with Custard

As with previous years, I will need to collect the cash of all participants up front, and I think we will follow the method we have done before:

Cheques payable to: R W L Colby
And please send your cheques (with a note giving your MoneyAM username) to the following address: Ian Taylor MoneyAM Ltd Thames House 18 Park Street London SE1 9ER

Ian will then forward them on to me.

The nearest train station is St Albans City which is about 1km north, and there is a very good 3 star Quality Inn 300 yards away on London Road for around 75 per night.

This years event which will be the best ever. I hope to see familiar and new faces alike in what could prove to be the biggest Golf day we have had so far. Although I am sure competition will be fierce, this is also designed to be an enjoyable day for all.

If you are interested in coming along (and all are welcome), please can you indicate so on this thread, and we can then start collating numbers and collecting the cash.

I look forward to seeing you all there,

br /> dcb dcbs guest canary9 Pinsticker predateur Paul Turner Richard Purvis Nick Ratcliffe Oli Wren Michael Smith Dan Ainsworth Matt Ross Bullshare IanT(MoneyAM) Rob Bowen David Motum David Weir mg ptholden Bob Hare Ritchie Powell Mike Covill Brian Kensington Andrew Palmer Patrick Latchford David Fineberg

cynic - 25 Jan 2007 15:51 - 47 of 207

quite right about trying to organise ..... a totally thankless task ..... used to arrange a trip to France for a dozen or so peeps ..... gave up after several years aggravation with peeps not being able to make up their minds (i.e. stump up the money) or cancelling.

however Bob (and sorry to sound like another whinger), i am afraid i too am no fan of TS ..... if format changes, so may my mind, but in any case, may well make a contribution to MacMillan (you've never had it so good!)

IanT(MoneyAM) - 25 Jan 2007 16:01 - 48 of 207

I think that Bob should be congratulated for getting this together and all the hard work he is putting in for this worthy charitable cause. Let us not lose sight of that - this year is for charity, it is open to all comers, and although no doubt on the day competition will have a big part to play, this is intended to be an enjoyable day out for a very good cause.

All are welcome, but if its not for you its not for you,

Well done Bob. Look forward to working with you on this event.

Ian

Bobcolby - 25 Jan 2007 16:08 - 49 of 207

Isaacs

You are a Star. On behalf of the Macmillan fund, your donation is gratefully accepted.

Now that is the kind of post I can use more of on this thread.

Your a Hero and a Gent

Fundamentalist - 25 Jan 2007 16:22 - 50 of 207

I dont think that any of us have questioned either the amount of work Bob is putting in or how worthy the cause is. I myself have in the past organised charity golf days and know at times it can feel that it is a thankless task but that the end result makes it all worthwhile. As i mentioned in my earlier post, i have a close affinity to MacMillan nursing - they made a huge difference in the final months of my mothers life and I contribute to them on a regular basis.

That said, i still feel as potential participants we have a right to express an opinion on the format. I have no problem with the main event being a team event (clearly the direction MAM want to go), I just think there are much better formats than Texas Scramble, my personal preference would be be for the best 2 stableford scores out of 4 for each team to count which thus still enables each individual to play their own ball for the full 18 holes

Bullshare - 25 Jan 2007 17:06 - 51 of 207

I think Bob is spot on with format, the BB comments made by a few last year prompted him and us as a sponsor to rethink the format to make the event inclusive rather than exclusive, we had to seek to find an alternative which gave the MoneyAM users base as a whole an opportunity to meet MoneyAm, enjoy some golf in good company, raise some money for a worthwhile cause and have some fun!

Hopefully the better players who turn up can respect those that play occassionally just as much as I am sure those who play rarely will learn and enjoy the company of those who take a more serious approach to the game. I myself have played(badly) just three games of golf in my life despite numerous lessons, time and family have stopped me from playing more regularly, but am happy to get stuck in.

EWRobson - 25 Jan 2007 18:19 - 52 of 207

Bob I certainly don't recall the Texas Scramble idea coming up on the PTH thread - first knowledge of the proposal was when this thread was opened. But I certainly don't want to get into an argument when you and MoneyAM are putting in the effort and they the financial support.

I will make one more attempt to get you to reconsider the format. Fundy's idea of Texas Scramble in the morning and 4 balls with best two to count on each hole is a well-established and popular format. There is no potential embarrassment for the beginner. I also think it would be extremely difficult to get the numbers you are looking for from the format proposed.

So please reconsider. Eric

Bobcolby - 25 Jan 2007 19:44 - 53 of 207

Eric, try looking at your post 463 dated 16 Jan 2007, 9 days ago, on the pth Golf thread ("Sounds like a fine idea, presumably I can take four shots") which was in response to my post 463 dated 9th dec 2006.

The first organiser in 2005 was pth, read his post 465 whilst you are at it. If that is not a glowing endorsement for this years format, I do not know what is.


canary9 - 25 Jan 2007 19:56 - 54 of 207

Bob, I will play whatever the format, as golf for me is fun with a bit of competition!
I do concur with the comments made by Eric, but applaud your effort to make changes to get more interest.
Good Luck,
Rod

markusantonius - 25 Jan 2007 20:15 - 55 of 207

Post removed by MoneyAM. Private email exchanges stay just that.

cynic - 25 Jan 2007 20:17 - 56 of 207

leave Bob alone .... he has worked very hard and diligently to put together an event that, in his view, will apeal to the greatest number and de facto raise the most money for Macmillan .... if you don't like the format, don't play, but don't hack at Bob

Bobcolby - 26 Jan 2007 09:47 - 57 of 207

Thanks for all the kind words guys, posts and emails. Keep em coming, I love it.

This should be a good year. I will do my best to ensure it is a resounding success.

Bob

chocolat - 26 Jan 2007 09:54 - 58 of 207

Is this a good time to ask if there'll be any pink windmills?

Bobcolby - 26 Jan 2007 10:30 - 59 of 207

choc

Bullies in charge of pink windmills

Fundamentalist - 26 Jan 2007 10:39 - 60 of 207

Bob

what you mean is thanks to all those who agree with you whilst you send aggressive emails to those who have tried to make suggestions that dont concur with your own thoughts

mg - 26 Jan 2007 11:12 - 61 of 207

Let's not turn this into anything other than a way of promoting a fun golf day out for charity - sponsored by MoneyAM.

I think it is worth remembering that the format used in the last couple of years has only attracted 10/11 people - so not exactly resounding successes. I'm sure quite a few possible participants were put off by the banter surrounding the last one - specifically women and occasional golfers.

Let's keep to the spirit of the day and let's see how many people want to get together for some fun, chat about the markets and friendship - whilst also raising some money for a very worthwhile charity - ain't that what it's supposed to be about?

I'm hoping that we can get lots more people to "have a go".

mg

ptholden - 26 Jan 2007 22:57 - 62 of 207

I did have a 'speech' planned, but MG beat me to it, well mostly. It didn't take a rocket scientist to work out that following excessive competitive spirit displayed on the previous golf thread MAM sponsorship was in serious doubt. Obviously MAM have decided that a Charity Event is something they feel more comfortable sponsoring in the expectation that the format will appeal to a wider audience.

I sincerely hope it does.

pth

predateur - 27 Jan 2007 08:35 - 63 of 207

Congratulatios mg and pth, at last comments which put the matter into some sort of sensible perspective.

It appears that a lot of negative comment is coming from people who have not played in the previuous two events and it would seem do not intend to play in this one.

As mg says, it is supposed to be a fun day and this year for a good cause.

It is not the Ryder Cup despite the club connection.

Bend a little, come and enjoy, cut out the " ya boo I can beat you", and if you cannot do that just send a contribution a the good cause.

Predateur

cynic - 27 Jan 2007 09:03 - 64 of 207

i shall happily do the latter, though " ya boo I can beat you" is not my mentality either

Fundamentalist - 27 Jan 2007 10:42 - 65 of 207

If you wish to interpret my comments as negative so be it, i tried to make constructive recommendations to improve the day. For my troubles I got a load of crap via email from Bob accusing me of knocking a worthy cause, a cause which is very dear to my heart and one which i have raised well into 5 figures for (as well as my own regular contributions). Apologies if me feeling aggrieved at this has got to you all, I will leave well alone, enjoy your day

cynic - 27 Jan 2007 12:16 - 66 of 207

fundie ..... trust you did not think i was snapping at you, though i doubt that you did
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