Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Financial services added about £67 billion to the balance of trade, of which £18.5 billion was EU related. Still a large amount but not all of that is threatened by Brexit. Nevertheless, still an amount coveted by Germany and France, who have been making threatening noises for years. But as we all know, one door closes and another opens, particularly when you don't have to deal with the EU mad house bureaucracy.

had never even heard of it, but worth reading on internet
below is an extract ....


From the turn of the 20th century Hessel Street [left in 1936] became the site of the East End's main Jewish market, open every day except Saturdays. The narrow street was filled with small shops and stalls. Chickens and other poultry were kept in cages; buyers selected one, which was killed according to kosher ritual and dressed while they shopped elsewhere (the archway, left, next to Carver's shoe shop at 9 Hessel Street led to 25-40 Morgan Houses and also to the abbatoir area). There were also many wet fish stalls, and general shops, with pans and kettles hanging on strings, and bookmakers. Some described it as an 'oriental' scene, the last of the ghetto markets. See these highly pejorative comments from 1902. Right are two idealised portraits: an artist's impression, looking towards Commercial Road, and a drawing by Noel Gibson of around 1980 (long after the street's heyday).

The Vanishing Street
In 1961, the day before the bulldozers moved in to replace the old buildings with high-rise blocks, Robert Vas made a 20-minute film showing a typical day in the life of the street, and its declining but still vibrant Jewish community. Initially called District for Sale, it was funded by the British Film Institute Experimental Film Fund and the Jewish Chronicle, and was approved by the Council for Christians and Jews before its release; it was first shown at the National Film Theatre in November 1962.

Vas, who had been brought up in a Jewish ghetto in Nazi-occupied Germany, was an advocate of the 'Free Cinema' technique. It was shot with a lightweight 16mm camera and tape recorder and presents impressions of the street, combinging long shots and close-ups over a background of natural sounds, snatches of conversations and old Yiddish songs; there is no voice-over commentary. It has a lyrical and nostalgic quality. Authorised viewers can see the film on BFI screenonline.

A few shops remained, in Jewish or increasingly Muslim hands - left is a greengrocer's in 1978, one offering eggs for both Passover and Easter, with signs in Arabic too, and a 1991 grocery shop. In 1988 Alan Dein photographed [right] derelict shopfronts to record the last moments of the Jewish community in the area – the bustling world of the inter-war years had been moved into the suburbs, and the community that stayed behind was less identifiable. In the nineteen eighties they were just hanging on, some premises had been empty for more than five years. Like a mouthful of broken teeth, a boxer’s mouth that had been thumped, with holes where teeth once were.

that last line reminds me of looking into a mirror after a rugby match...

The Scottish government’s North Sea revenues collapsed in 2015-16 to just £60m from £1.8bn a year earlier.
It is a far cry from the rewards reaped by Scotland in 2008-09, when North Sea revenues were £11.6bn.
The £60m revenue last year was the smallest on record since the Scottish parliament was convened in 1998-99. It represented a 78.5% share of North Sea revenues.
Well, let them go alone with that to spend. No doubt the wee one will blame it on Brexit and demand reparations from London...

don't worry; apparently the chinese already own most of the rigs, so they'll gallop to the rescue

Hear George's boys are still buying London?

Perhaps, they will become old fashioned landlords.

Rachman style?
2517

Could be!

Cheer up Fred, only another 20-25 years to the next Labour Govt. Corbyn you have to laugh!

Corbyn is attempting to get into the Guineas Book of Records for the biggest ever defeat at a General Election

Should do it easily

Don't worry Fred will keep the red flag waving LOL!!!!

It seems strange to me that Corbyn, who seems in the posted opinions of some is inconsequential, takes up so much effort time and attracts so many pejorative posts and derogatory comments.

Strange how a seemingly mild-mannered and quiet man, strikes so much fear in some.

I wonder what he has, that they haven't.

It seems strange to me that Corbyn, who seems in the posted opinions of some is inconsequential, takes up so much effort time and attracts so many pejorative posts and derogatory comments.

Strange how a seemingly mild-mannered and quiet man, strikes so much fear in some.

I wonder what he has, that they haven't.

Interesting to see Trump is being supported by Farage.

Both rabble leaders.

8-)

He doesn't strike fear in to anyone Fred , neither does that jerk Owen Smith ,it's you ,don't you get it ? people just having a little dig in response to your stupid rubbish you spout day after day .

corbyn assuredly doesn't, but his militant union backers and far left socialist creed certainly do


the only area of sympathy that i hold, though thank goodness i don't have to suffer from it, is the exorbitant fares and diabolical service offered by the rail companies
the dutch assuredly get screwed badly in other ways, but their rail service is excellent and very good value indeed - or so my experience of travelling from a'dam to r'dam shows

Dumbo,

Thank you for your explanation.

Did you understand it.

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Manuel,


What are the Corbyn's policies you are allergic to?

Just interested.

Sorry Fred it's you that's Dumbo you just don't get it ,now have a nice early drink and calm down.

PS.

Dumbo,

The UKIPPERS. Barmy right wingers and Brexities don't seem to have policies for the exit from the EU and can't even find the exit doors.

I am sure May will stitch them up.

Same as she has done with Boris, Davies, Fox and she will do the same with a few others.

Where have IDS, Redwood, Jenkins, Pat disappeared to?

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On the other hand Holland has one of the highest tax rates in the world and most don't seem to mind. Perhaps the term "cheesehead" or "kaaskop" comes from their willingness to pay what is decreed.
For my sins, I had to attend company meetings in the Hague for a while. Cars in Holland are more expensive than in neighbouring Germany. Having just collected a 4x4 from Japan in Holland, I asked why they didn't just go across the border to buy but they wouldn't think of it. Maybe being so tall, they suffer from lack of oxygen to the brain or maybe they actually support the system.