Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Well, Ed Balls showed he has a sense of humour.

He may need it.

Lol , that just about sums it up.

if any mp abstains to vote today should resign

any mp who abstains today should never have been an mp

Many won't be in less than 2 month's time Tanker. The vulnerable one's will need to be dragged through the division. It will be interesting to see how the Scottish No Party votes.

Voting to hold a General Election

For: 522
Against: 13

The 13 MPs who voted against an early election

Here are the 13 MPs who voted against an early election.

Labour

Ronnie Campbell

Ann Clwyd

Paul Farrelly

Jim Fitzpatrick

Clive Lewis

Fional Mactaggart

Liz McInnes

Dennis Skinner

Graham Stringer

SDLP

Alasdair McDonnell

Independent

Lady Hermon

Natalie McGarry

Michelle Thomson

And the two tellers for the Noes were Margaret Ritchie and Mark Durkan, who are both SDLP MPs

Good ol Dennis :-)

Lol , about time he retired and Ann Clywd.

The eldest, oft-forgotten Chuckle Brother, Jimmy Chuckle, has married a woman 59 years his junior after finding love on social media.
The 85-year-old actor made a handful of appearances alongside brothers Barry and Paul on the hit BBC kids’ series ‘ChuckleVision’.
It has now emerged he married 26-year-old Amy Phillips last weekend in Southport.
Long may he chuckle..

corbyn the liar said today that he was sick of the big foreign companies using the uk for vast profits and paying very little ,
then he says he wants open borders well thick who corbyn those same companies like open borders so they can employ the cheap uneducated labour flooding the uk

CORBYN IS A COMPLETE STUPID SIMPLE DIMWIT

VOTE MAY AND LETS HAVE A GREAT UK AGAIN

Laurenrose,

What is your country of origin?

It can't be the UK.

They maybe cheap but they are no more uneducated then a lot of British job-seekers.

Fred1new - 20 Apr 2017 18:44 - 76447 of 76449

Laurenrose,

What is your country of origin?

It can't be the UK.

Don't tell him Solomon Blumstein

it has long seemed to me that british youth believes the nonsense that a degree of any kind equips you for the real world and that that world owes them a well paid living

on the other hand, many from eastern europe and elsewhere are not afraid (ashamed) to get stuck in and get their hands dirty, even if they have degrees from their own countries

From today's FT ......

Options market signals the need for Europe to change
Prices suggest populist movement has grown to a point where Brussels cannot ignore it


and, as i have said for months, it has taken uk to vote "out" for there to be any realisation in brussels for the need for fundamental change

i know fred thinks otherwise, but had uk voted to remain, all would have been quietly swept under the carpet

Post 76451,

If that is so, it is because of propaganda by various governments over the year.

It improved their employment figures to encourage "further" education.

But it is similar to the wealthy elite "buying" "internships" with the like of GSs and the expectations of obtained high paid "jobs". (For the boys.)

(Not necessarily ability, but contacts or, ?)

What I feel sorry about is the number of students leaving universities with "good" qualifications, etc. loaded with colossal debts which they have to repay from "lower" than expected incomes without a chance in hell of buying their own homes, or any sensible long-term research posts or equivalent due to short-term contracts without any guarantees.

I expect to see another "brain drain" period, as in the 70s, 80, 90s.

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76452,

Changes (rules and regulations) in any organisation are always required, but I prefer the changes of evolution than revolution.

That means if it is thought changes are necessary then it would be sensible to seek them by persuasion rather than brash storming out of a body.

Also, perhaps if I was in a minority of one in an argument I would reappraise my arguments and reasoning for wishing stated "changes".

Also, I would think it reasonable to reconsider the goals I wish to achieve and what are the reasons for the opposition.

I would not necessarily be wrong, but it might make me more hesitant.

The problem at present of "UKIP ", the right wing of the present tory party is that they are striving for what is good for "themselves" as individuals rather than what is good for society as a whole.

I think the EU with all its faults considers the long-term benefits of cooperation rather than the short term gains of competition.

(Nothing wrong with sensible competition.)


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Ps, must go back to concentrate on making my Wry Bread.

76453 - pretty much agree with what you posted in the first couple of paras .... nevertheless, british youth seems to lack the drive of many from abroad