Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Dil,

I know Manuel is pretty ancient, but not sure how old you are but know that I am older than you.

My comparisons or awareness of changes partially due to the EU go back to before European Economic Community in 1973.

I was discussing some of those changes with my 90 year old brother and we related the changes in living standards, especially health and social standards.

The quality of "life" prior to 1973 would be unacceptable to many of today's public.

Schools, hospital, housing, working conditions, legal freedoms and general wellbeing have been advanced.

Sure some of the changes would have occurred with or without the EU EC etc. but the speeds of those changes were/ are enhanced by the formation, integration, and stability of Europe.

To me, it is daft to renege on promises to subvert its continuing development to satisfy the whims of a few adolescents and immature ideology.

to satisfy the whims of a few adolescents and immature ideology

fred - with that, you destroy all you might have said that was sensible beforehand
several million disagreed with your view and that does not make them stupid or worse

i disagree with you, but am content to be called stupid or worse :-)

"fred - with that, you destroy all you might have said that was sensible beforehand"

Yes beforehand..afterhand... and middlehand....

fred the fool believes what the europhiliacs has implanted in his head and the
rest of the brainwashed, that the eu has been the bedrock of their security, when
in fact its being NATO...And when talking about integration, means uncontrolled
immigration and open borders...

The cnut just talks utter Boll**..

Financial gain is more important than life for some

"Sergej W " bought a large number of so-called put options for shares of Borussia Dortmund

Dortmund bus terror arrest: German-Russian man 'carried out bomb attack to make money then blamed Muslims'

The Borussia Dortmund team bus was targeted with three bombs last Tuesday ahead of their Champions League quarter-final against Monaco, leaving one player and one policeman injured

Police have arrested a German-Russian citizen on Friday morning on suspicion of carrying out the attack on the Borussia Dortmund team bus last Tuesday, with prosecutors alleging that the bombing was motivated by financial greed...
dortmund-bus-terror-arrest-german-russian-share-price-blamed

Manuel,

Millions of people have been known to form the wrong opinion more than once.

Look what happened.

Being wrong doesn't make you stupid, just misled by yourself or others.

Sometimes even ahead of the pack.

But not you Fred?

Ukip may not contest seats held by pro-Brexit Tories


Cash-strapped party could stand aside in seats held by Conservatives who campaigned strongly to leave EU


While the main beneficiaries would be Tories, it is possible that some pro-Brexit Labour MPs, for example Kate Hoey in Vauxhall, could also see no Ukip candidate stand against them.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/21/ukip-may-not-contest-seats-held-by-pro-brexit-tories

I suppose coming on here is better than talking to yourself all day Freda .

Where the dead tories go.

Fred , I can remember 1973 and of course there have been major advances in all walks of life but they would have happened anyway just like they have in the rest of the world.

Even most tin pot countries standards of living are better than they were in 1973.

Max,

I have made loads of mistakes and had them pointed out to me by my 5 wives.

===---=

I was told when I was young that it was OK to make mistakes, but the secret was to try not to repeat them and consider them as part of a learning process.

I have never made a mystake.

Got you!

I did that on porpoise.

Everyone makes mistakes Fred, the trick is not to repeat them (ha!)


A song that makes the point well..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXW-sL5gzHQ

"Birmingham is worse than Molenbeek"....The Brussels borough that The
Guardian described as "becoming known as Europe's jihadi central."


"In England they are free to speak. They speak only of prohibitions, they
impose on one the rigid vision of Islam but, on the other hand, they listen
to no-one, most of all those who disagree with them."


gatestoneinstitute.org/10190/islam-england-france

fred - does that make you a mor(m)on ? :-)

No, just an innocent experimenter.

Oh dear...



DAN HODGES: I've voted Labour for 30 years. But on June 8, I MUST vote for Mrs May

By Dan Hodges For The Mail On Sunday

Published: 01:12, 23 April 2017 |



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-4436410/DAN-HODGES-June-8-vote-Mrs-May.html

Last time I voted Conservative at a General Election was 1992 but wil be voting for them again this time.

I agree with the article and hoped Corbyn and his loony band of lefties get crushed.