Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

have lost all my faith in the party , the policies destroyed the party

if FARAGE comes back it will be good news ,

pound falling euro falling markets falling pension funds down big time

the eu leaders are saying brexit is not going to happen

Labour offering loadsa free stuff turned the vote over.

£27k tuition fees with the tories, free with old labour...what would you choose?

Tories will nick your house...free old age care with labour, what would you choose?



The list goes on, never mind there isn't the money, people don't think about that.

She failed to use her most powerful public guns - to drive her message home - was Boris in hiding? She kept Hammonds job hanging on a thread, failed to use Andrea Leadsom as a strong but softer face of the Con Party. Put it down to poor management.

Manuel,

How much was Sterling devalued by Cameron and the con artists having a referendum and failing?

What are the con artists intentions or goals (other than home goals) on Brexit?

This McDonnell is weird says Cons can't govern but he wants a minority Lab gov to govern with no deals , how can that work .

MaxK - Spot on - people seem to forget that the money comes from them to pay for those things but when voting think the Fairy`s provide it.

it's now history, but the tory manifesto (dementia tax) was the most appalling blunder and probably cost them the election majority on its own

more interesting is the forward path through the brexit negotiations
there will be much head scratching among all parties in uk and europe on how best to do this and what result would actually benefit all
as always, major negotiation will continue behind the scene

to my mind, brexit is far and away the most important issue, with the nhs and its humungous problems that will just continue to grow following on behind

throwing money at the nhs by the barrowload would be merely a sticking plaster, though a very heavy one indeed for us taxpayers

Labour apparently still want Brexit but what are they prepared to accept , who knows .

77531 - it depends where the pension fund is invested ..... my own sipp has a decent sprinkling of $-earners and is unlikely to be negatively affected

it's now history, but the tory manifesto (dementia tax) was the most appalling blunder and probably cost them the election majority on its own
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I agree cynic ,i thought at the time why oh why would you come out with that one now .

If these negotiations take two years , why are we panicking now , go into them with pomposity and grind them down wipe the smile off their faces . There won't be a vote for two years things can change .

dealing with dementia and similar old age problems is certainly a very serious issue that needs to be tackled, but that was real head in hands stuff

on the brighter side, a seriously hard brexit, if it ever came to that in reality, would have had very serious consequences and not just for uk
assuredly it will now be much softer, though i hope with certain important (uk) elements maintained .......

in particular, and of course, is control of our borders .... i don't see that as being a major stumbling block as there are many ways for all sides to save face on that one

similarly, ways will be found to maintain trade in each direction

escaping the interference of ECHR may be more difficult

Promises that can not be fulfil got the votes on this elections

labour :
The Corbyn beaches, the students, plus many remainers got the votes for them

tories
Pensioners without "triple lock " decided not to vote or vote against

note:
T. May ( HUNG ) heavy necklace, was tilting her body down and pointing to the HUNG
parliament

Stir salt into water and you get a clear solution.
Boil off the water and you have a residue of salt again.
But whisked eggs stirred in a hot pan cannot be unscrambled.
Some changes are more reversible than others.

MaxK post 77532

Absolutely spot on, too many people swallowed Labour's sweets for all.

the young always will .... they have the hard lesson to learn about no free lunch let alone a sackful of christmas presents

Get them back to the food banks and dole queues.

Education, who wants that.

Suitable only for the elite on daddy's money.

So how was your daughter educated Freda , still bluffing i see .

Just heard from "Ireland" that Sinn Féin may take up their seats for certain votes!

Interesting balance!

MaxK

I think you hit the bullseye on this one:

Labour offering loadsa free stuff turned the vote over.

£27k tuition fees with the tories, free with old labour...what would you choose?

Tories will nick your house...free old age care with labour, what would you choose?

There are signs TM's confidence is now on the wobble. There are also signs Boris and Davis do want her to stay, at least for the time being. But they may be plotting something in the background. I reckon Boris Johnson really fancies his chances as he practices his Churchilian speeches in bed every night.

Apparently, it was Davis and Hammond who pushed her into having a General Election.

If she could do a deal with the SNP, who also need a bit of succour and support after their Election ordeal, then May and the rest of them might be able to relax a bit more and more easily get on with the job of Brexit. But what could this deal be?