Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

at least you admit you don't know, and pretty much repeat versions of that all through your last post

we all know that you were strongly against leaving eu, and there's nothing wrong with that - my own vote was marginal until the very last minute, but ultimately chose the other option

i do not think we should have another referendum and i doubt i shall change that view

whatever is battered out, and i'm sure there'll be some good bits and some bad, we'll all have to learn to live with it ...... similarly if (heaven forbid) we get a hard left-wing gov't at the next election or even the one following ..... that said, on past record you'll decline to vote at all so i'm afraid it makes your views less valid, whatever you may like to believe



my real objection to 99% of your posts is that they are so partisan as to make them totally predictable and binable
your responses to any who have the temerity disagree with you are then supercilious or patronising or both

As a matter of interest if there is another referendum which swings the way of the remain camp can we at some later date have a best of three referendum? ... or 5 or 7 or ... well were do you draw the line?

Manuel,

You asked for my opinion.

You are entitled to your opinions as much as I am.

But, I am glad I don't have to agree with your opinions or need to act on any of them.

If my responses are so predictable to you, you would appear to me to be a bigger fool than I thought you were, to have asked for them.

But, when somebody who appears to me to be stunted in adolescence as you are, argues that my opinions are of lesser value and dependant on whether or not, I vote, is for me questionable.

As far as I am concerned, all are entitled to their opinions whether they are substantiated., or not.

Again, the way in which you seem to present your arguments makes it is a little difficult not to seem patronizing when responding to you.

C’est la vie.
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Martini,

Evolution, I think, is the necessary part of all developing organisations and I would think it reasonable to review the organisation within such organisations periodically.

Such reviews could be instigated if the “will” of the people is advocated at periodic general elections or by a vote in parliament.


We have had elections and change of policies and social developments for centuries subsequent to them.

That is the problem for some with democracy.

The cartoon is so so, but the comments section is full of remoaner porn, an absolute orgy of recrimination and self loathing.


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2018/mar/02/martin-rowson-theresa-may-third-brexit-speech-cartoon

Even the cartoons are becoming poorer.

Wait by the exit.

Martini,

The line will be drawn once more than 50% of the Great British electorate tick the correct box.

:o)

In another referendum we would vote leave by a bigger margin , i guarantee you.

jimmy - DC thought the reverse first time around - as indeed it would almost certainly have been had our local marxist not been less than lukewarm; TM fucked up the last GE by being similarly overconfident

I really would take a punt on that this time ,i think a lot of undecided would now vote out ,i think folk are angry at the way the EU have tried to blackmail us ,i also think people are fed up with so called experts completely wrong predictions and scare mongering . As for Blair ,Major etc it goes with out saying .
I think your right TM was over confident especially with her care in the home dementia we will take your home tax , what on earth was she thinking .

Really, Jimbo?

UK odds-on to vote Remain in a second EU Referendum

Britons favour second referendum by 16-point margin

I think we should have Referenda every Wednesday and Elvis on a Friday - or maybe Billy Fury.

Exec,

They play every day at No 10!

;-)

Well they didn't get it right last time, Hilary, but being Paddy, he never learns from his mistakes.

https://news.paddypower.com/politics/2016/06/20/brexit-vote-update-paddy-power-stunned-as-uk-votes-to-leave-despite-huge-bets-for-remain/

Umm Hils , they were odds on last time and the odds were much shorter.

... and when's the last time the polls got anything right ?

WBA being regulated?

Dil,

A second referendum hasn't even been called so it's all a bit academic at this stage. The betting market will be thin, and the bookies will just be keeping a balanced book, making it sufficiently attractive to pull in some business and ensure they win to some degree, regardless of the outcome.

There are so many intangibles still. For instance, how effective will Soros' money be this summer in drumming up interest for a second referendum? Will Maggie get a good deal from Brussels? Will she win October's meaningful vote? Will she still have a job? Will Corbyn be PM?

Once those matters are resolved, and if there does end up being a second referendum, then the betting market will change. You know how these things work.

Maggie????

Get behind you leader.


Which leader and which way is she going?

Maggie May, cyners.