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The really useful silver thread (AG)     

squirrel888 - 12 Jun 2013 10:30

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Saturn6 - 07 Dec 2013 13:41 - 947 of 1034

Gaz - That is a very nteresting cycle chart showing the culmination of the two time cycles at the current point ;-/

Good job I am rotating out of stocks and into energy and physical. But am hoping for an Xmas rally to cream a bit more, but stops are being tightened.

S.

Saturn6 - 07 Dec 2013 13:49 - 948 of 1034

And it is quite astonishing the depth and breadth of control they have attained in getting all the universities and learning faculties to push their gibberish nonesense into our psyche.

No doubt tvstk have been a help.

S.

gazkaz - 07 Dec 2013 23:17 - 949 of 1034

Sahara....yes, agreed

- Just read the whole Q & A on BITCOINS main page
- IMO FWIW
- no ifs buts or maybes - created by TPTB

Nobody else could create out of nothing - such an absurdly complex, nobody owns, nobody controlls..... "hey man - it's all concensus based"
- but multi encypted dude
- load of virtual, fiat "casino gambling chips"

AND...then
Super hype it
- to the extent, outlined in this ....link
(it's actually at the end a sales pitch....but well worth reading...as to whose getting into it......and suggestion ot the prospect....google, paypal and....a long list of etc's)

http://pacificrimcoins.com/content/edisons-revenge-dollar

Now who could engineer....that suggested level of take up - by big transnational corporations....wells fargo and money transfer !!
- plus integrate all the software
- into mainstream corporation useage
- ......globally

Hey man - it's open source dude....and concensus owned and run
- yeah man - it's..... by the people, for the people
- yeah man - it's ...Bolox
- alphabet agentcias fingerprints all over it



gazkaz - 07 Dec 2013 23:46 - 950 of 1034

Sahara
- yes the 13yr chart cycle (if accurate) is almost...precision.

Read a few things on cycles in the last 3months
- one was a book written a few decades ago on the.... cycles of investing
- the correlations were quite stunning....as to the cycles involved with.... various areas in the investment arena

Another was a two prt article titled.... something to the effect.... "Why ? - because it's not....our time"
- which dealt with....generational cycles

- effectively over a... 3 generations.... ie 75yrs (appx... a lifespan).... "Big" cycle
- not only ...will.... we experience X-Y-Z cycles within that time
- we will....also experience....R-S-T-V cycles ...within that cycle ...as well
(plus others)

It was - uncomfortably uncanny
(to the extent I read it again....twice more)

I may be mistaken - but from memory
- a few of those cycles... conclude in the next few years ...which fall
- in the - unpleasant category
(I think 2015....again...featured in the... more unpleasant category)

I think you are already - onboard - with cycles - having read many of your fibonacci posts
- it's quite fascinating how fibonacci ratios, golden ratios, and other sacred geometries
- keep on popping up ...again and again
- even down to... the realms of partcle physics.....right up to astronomy
(and most things inbetween)

gazkaz - 08 Dec 2013 00:01 - 951 of 1034

Sahara
Again a yes.

The history/origins of it , plus past and present use of the Tspook Inst, in pushing a united ...inter-connected theme ...throughout society
- throughout all levels of education, TV, Hollywood, computer games, adverts, MSM...and even the odd genuine politician who.. inavertently slips ...into..the gov
- does indeed demonstrate world control is already here ...in the hands of ..the few
(high single digit again - perhaps :o)

gazkaz - 08 Dec 2013 01:54 - 952 of 1034

JPM kick off Dec by - taking....delivery of 95.6% of .....all deliveries

Total Deliveries: 3,558

Total Stopped by JPM:... 3,400 or..... 95.6%
(ie JPM took/Received delivery)

http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/blog/5304/qed-ii

gazkaz - 08 Dec 2013 02:01 - 953 of 1034

Eric Sprott

The time is coming when we all realize that the banking system, because the assets are weak, some day ......there is going to be another bail-in.
- And the minute that bail-in gets reported,
- unlike ....the Cypriot bail-in, people will realize that it’s very, very risky having your money in banks.

The minute that happens .....it will trigger gold and silver,
- and I think that’s the next event..... to watch for
- some weakness, or some outright bail-in of ....another banking system.”

(So how close are we to that moment -would he say ?)

“It depends on... who ....the next country is .......and how big it is.
- If it was Spain I think it would be... too big.... for the ECB or governments to deal with.
- Maybe they can get away with.... Slovenia,
- who came out said their banks had...... a $5 billion shortfall.

But
- it looks today like nobody wants to write the check any more.
- The governments... don’t want to write these checks to support their banking system.
- So it could be any time.
We keep progressing with what they call in Europe ‘The Banking Resolution,’ which is really...... the ‘Bail-In Resolution.’

I think the BIS has set the tone.
They’ve said,

‘Well, it’s so simple to deal with a bail-in bank.
- We just close it ..on Friday,
- we make the depositors and creditors .....take the hit,
- and .....we open it on Monday.’

It’s fine for them (the BIS), but not so fine for the... depositors.
- And when it starts to reverberate that you don’t want to have deposits in a bank,
that’s when...... all hell is going to break loose.”

(Tick, Tick, Tick ....an' all)

Saturn6 - 08 Dec 2013 12:28 - 954 of 1034

Great stuff as usual Gaz...And with the likes of that Bitcoin pump it would seem the race is on to get the public interested and involved prior to the dump ;-/

There may be more upside to go and will likely peak as all and sundry are telling us what a great and secure money maker bitcoin is. '-'

Cycles are indeed relevant and cannot be ignored. Alexander Kondratiev is one to bear in mind and these waves are best taken when they coincide with other popular wave theories and overlaid with as you say, Fibonacci ratios.

This Kondratiev chart shows the projection of the $SPX to 2035...



S.

Saturn6 - 08 Dec 2013 21:00 - 955 of 1034

Silver probed the upperr resistance line but closed back down nside the downtrend channel. Point is the ctr line held on the big up candle and it plotted n 'Hrami' against the red candle. We now wish to see that 'Harami' confirmed on Monday and in doing so it will give us the break out of the downtrend channel.

If you scan the indicators in the lower panes you can see them perking up poised ready to blow, the same with RSI in the upper pane... ))



S.

Saturn6 - 08 Dec 2013 21:05 - 956 of 1034

If we look at the relationship of stocks to miners we can see they have gone 'parabolic' and holders of $Silver will be familiar with the outcome of such a move....

I'm not saying we are necessarily at the top just yet, but it doesn't look far off...



S.

Saturn6 - 08 Dec 2013 21:19 - 957 of 1034

Also this chart shows stiff resistance at the current ratio of Dow30 to Miners...



S.

Saturn6 - 08 Dec 2013 21:22 - 958 of 1034

Lets see if we can hold these areas on Silver this week and get the start of the upturn/?...



S.

Saturn6 - 08 Dec 2013 21:30 - 959 of 1034

Miners need to seriously rebuke this dip out of the 'Rectangle' and Bullish 'Wedge' forthwith...



S.

Saturn6 - 10 Dec 2013 09:18 - 960 of 1034

Silver has popped the downtrend after holding the 50% line of the large up-candle. It needs to overcome the resitance of the 20/MA, RSI, and lateral resistance before we get too exciteable...



Which if this is a 'Wave-3' as predicated then we should see some oomph appear in the sahpe of the advance and volume...



S.

Saturn6 - 10 Dec 2013 18:57 - 961 of 1034

Lets hope the Miners are not just backtesting the 'Rectangle'...



S.

Saturn6 - 11 Dec 2013 08:11 - 962 of 1034

On the discussion of business cycles this quote I found from Martin Armstrongs site warns against the delusion Governments can smooth away the bisiness cycle...

“Not much more than a decade ago, in what now seems a more innocent age, the ‘New Economics’ had become orthodoxy. Its basic tenet, repeated in similar words in speech after speech, in article after article, was described by one of its leaders as ‘the conviction that business cycles were not inevitable, that government policy could and should keep the economy close to a path of steady real growth at a constant target rate of unemployment. … By the early 1970s, the persistence of inflationary pressures, even in the face of mild recession, began to flash some danger signals; the responses of the economy to the twisting of the dials of monetary and fiscal policy no longer seemed quite so predictable. But it was not until the events of 1974 and 1975, when a recession sprung on an unsuspecting world with an intensity unmatched in the post-World War II period, that the lessons of the ‘New Economics’ were seriously challenged.”

http://armstrongeconomics.com/the-business-cycle/

S.

Saturn6 - 11 Dec 2013 08:13 - 963 of 1034

The sour side to sugar...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDaYa0AB8TQ

S

gazkaz - 11 Dec 2013 17:46 - 964 of 1034

Sahara
- thanks for the above. Just got "Sugar" running in the background now.

I mentioned recently the article I read on.... cycles
(just come accross it looking for something else)

So
- why hasn’t it crashed?
- Why, 14, 24, 34 years later.... is the economy still limping along,
- the illusions still firmly in place
despite every evidence and warning?

It isn’t time.

http://www.oftwominds.com/blogmay13/EricA-pt1-5-13.html

Part I concludes with and answer to ....why

So why are the markets still going up?
Why can’t people respond to warnings of the blogosphere, or warnings of collapsing economies and accounts
right before their eyes?

Answer:
Because they can’t. ......It isn’t time.


Part II

http://www.oftwominds.com/blogmay13/EricA-pt2-5-13.html

Paer II concludes with

You...... may not be able to change your nation or
- the desperate situation we find ourselves in,
But each of you can.... change yourself.
- You ...can make your own lifeboat
- in the midst of our own national challenge or "collapse."
Only through that individual preparation could we find a million safety nets which prevent collapse.

And if that is all that’s asked of you,
- it’s good, for that’s all that’s possible.

Start today..... It’s time.

gazkaz - 11 Dec 2013 21:54 - 965 of 1034

Sahara
(excellent expose of sugar thanks)

Little known and a greatly guarded "secret" - of the cigarette industry

IS - SUGAR

(Try to find an - official list of ingredients ! - they ONLY provide one to government - and its kept under - lock and key).

Dr. Richard Passey, a researcher at London's
Chester Beattie Research Institute,
- conducted twenty years of research on the tobacco problem. (ie cancer link)

He found no significant link
between.... the traditionally air dried tobacco
- and lung cancer.

However, the American and English tobacco industries, which are
dominated by the Rothschilds,

- use sugar in their tobacco,

for a sweetened, sugar dried effect.
- England, uses 17% sugar,
- the United States 10%.

England has the highest lung cancer rate in the world.

Dr. Passey concluded

- that the addition of sugar to tobacco creates

- a carcinogenic substance in the nicotine tar


But in air dried tobacco,

- this carcinogen is not activated.

He found... no resulting lung cancer ....in the
- Soviet Union, China and Taiwan,

(all of which produce air-dried tobacco).

Courtessy Mullins - Murder By Injection - page 78

Saturn6 - 12 Dec 2013 09:07 - 966 of 1034

Don't you just love Eustace? He was so far ahead. I mean how did he manage to uncover so much with his limited means. I know Ezra Pound helped finance him in his investigation into the Fed, but I don't think it was a great deal.

And quite how he survived for so long is a mystery.

The cycles link was very interesting and cycles being linked to generational influences would imply the waves would be getting longer, hence the delay perhaps?/

Also the individual approach is spot on. I have long since refrained from trying to enlighten any one individual. Save to say perhaps 'Have you read George Orwells 1994? and if so do you see any parallels?' and leave it at that.

I did share the 'sugar' link with a few people just as a health guide and even they thought it odd I should do so ;-/ It would seem people are happy to talk of football celebrity jungle, and other such piffle, while remaining less aware of their real circumstances.

Just found out at the weekend a member of the family is a cocaine addict, so lots of distractions at the moment. But I will try and post the updated charts later.

PS Are we prepared for a solar flare or other EMP event?...

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/worst-case-scenario-solar-flares-will-short-circuit-satellites-power-grids-ground-communication-equipment_12102013

S.
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