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The really useful silver thread (AG)     

squirrel888 - 12 Jun 2013 10:30

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Saturn6 - 10 Dec 2013 18:57 - 961 of 1034

Lets hope the Miners are not just backtesting the 'Rectangle'...



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Saturn6 - 11 Dec 2013 08:11 - 962 of 1034

On the discussion of business cycles this quote I found from Martin Armstrongs site warns against the delusion Governments can smooth away the bisiness cycle...

“Not much more than a decade ago, in what now seems a more innocent age, the ‘New Economics’ had become orthodoxy. Its basic tenet, repeated in similar words in speech after speech, in article after article, was described by one of its leaders as ‘the conviction that business cycles were not inevitable, that government policy could and should keep the economy close to a path of steady real growth at a constant target rate of unemployment. … By the early 1970s, the persistence of inflationary pressures, even in the face of mild recession, began to flash some danger signals; the responses of the economy to the twisting of the dials of monetary and fiscal policy no longer seemed quite so predictable. But it was not until the events of 1974 and 1975, when a recession sprung on an unsuspecting world with an intensity unmatched in the post-World War II period, that the lessons of the ‘New Economics’ were seriously challenged.”

http://armstrongeconomics.com/the-business-cycle/

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Saturn6 - 11 Dec 2013 08:13 - 963 of 1034

The sour side to sugar...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDaYa0AB8TQ

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gazkaz - 11 Dec 2013 17:46 - 964 of 1034

Sahara
- thanks for the above. Just got "Sugar" running in the background now.

I mentioned recently the article I read on.... cycles
(just come accross it looking for something else)

So
- why hasn’t it crashed?
- Why, 14, 24, 34 years later.... is the economy still limping along,
- the illusions still firmly in place
despite every evidence and warning?

It isn’t time.

http://www.oftwominds.com/blogmay13/EricA-pt1-5-13.html

Part I concludes with and answer to ....why

So why are the markets still going up?
Why can’t people respond to warnings of the blogosphere, or warnings of collapsing economies and accounts
right before their eyes?

Answer:
Because they can’t. ......It isn’t time.


Part II

http://www.oftwominds.com/blogmay13/EricA-pt2-5-13.html

Paer II concludes with

You...... may not be able to change your nation or
- the desperate situation we find ourselves in,
But each of you can.... change yourself.
- You ...can make your own lifeboat
- in the midst of our own national challenge or "collapse."
Only through that individual preparation could we find a million safety nets which prevent collapse.

And if that is all that’s asked of you,
- it’s good, for that’s all that’s possible.

Start today..... It’s time.

gazkaz - 11 Dec 2013 21:54 - 965 of 1034

Sahara
(excellent expose of sugar thanks)

Little known and a greatly guarded "secret" - of the cigarette industry

IS - SUGAR

(Try to find an - official list of ingredients ! - they ONLY provide one to government - and its kept under - lock and key).

Dr. Richard Passey, a researcher at London's
Chester Beattie Research Institute,
- conducted twenty years of research on the tobacco problem. (ie cancer link)

He found no significant link
between.... the traditionally air dried tobacco
- and lung cancer.

However, the American and English tobacco industries, which are
dominated by the Rothschilds,

- use sugar in their tobacco,

for a sweetened, sugar dried effect.
- England, uses 17% sugar,
- the United States 10%.

England has the highest lung cancer rate in the world.

Dr. Passey concluded

- that the addition of sugar to tobacco creates

- a carcinogenic substance in the nicotine tar


But in air dried tobacco,

- this carcinogen is not activated.

He found... no resulting lung cancer ....in the
- Soviet Union, China and Taiwan,

(all of which produce air-dried tobacco).

Courtessy Mullins - Murder By Injection - page 78

Saturn6 - 12 Dec 2013 09:07 - 966 of 1034

Don't you just love Eustace? He was so far ahead. I mean how did he manage to uncover so much with his limited means. I know Ezra Pound helped finance him in his investigation into the Fed, but I don't think it was a great deal.

And quite how he survived for so long is a mystery.

The cycles link was very interesting and cycles being linked to generational influences would imply the waves would be getting longer, hence the delay perhaps?/

Also the individual approach is spot on. I have long since refrained from trying to enlighten any one individual. Save to say perhaps 'Have you read George Orwells 1994? and if so do you see any parallels?' and leave it at that.

I did share the 'sugar' link with a few people just as a health guide and even they thought it odd I should do so ;-/ It would seem people are happy to talk of football celebrity jungle, and other such piffle, while remaining less aware of their real circumstances.

Just found out at the weekend a member of the family is a cocaine addict, so lots of distractions at the moment. But I will try and post the updated charts later.

PS Are we prepared for a solar flare or other EMP event?...

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/worst-case-scenario-solar-flares-will-short-circuit-satellites-power-grids-ground-communication-equipment_12102013

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Saturn6 - 12 Dec 2013 12:12 - 967 of 1034

If you have been reading your bible as you should, and wondered about the colourful references in Revelation such as the 'red' (edom) beast, the whore, and purple and scarlet, the two horns and ten kings, and Babylon the great, etc, then this should help in understanding it a but more...

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And recall the hidden ruler I mentioned previously the BP.

From the above link.

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gazkaz - 13 Dec 2013 01:29 - 968 of 1034

Sahara
- Yes the info Mullins packs into a couple of hundred pages of just "one book"
- would give the average
" pad a litlle knowledge out into a book"
- enough material to write a dozen books.

I have only read the two the above MBJ & Secrets of the Feddy, but the investigative research and detail packed into them - really puts him in a league of his own.
(as you intimate.....and yet still lived to continue the disclosures...thankfully)

As you say - try covering anything off the straight and narrow indoctrination with the average sheeps....and it really is if they
- click into "standby mode" & brain offline.

Mullins even covers that aspect
- as the effects of mercury in our multi childhood vaccines (he omits amalgam mercury fillings) - toxic overload of aluminium..which is in everything from antiperspirants, most cosmetics, sunscreens, even presc. pills and potions, over the counter meds, baking powder (Bread and most baked products) and mucm more
- as well as the obvious... soda cans/food & confectionery packaging etc
(incidentally - guess what lines many of the acidic aluminium dissolving....cardboard fruit juice and other drinks cartons...eg milk) .

Which when combined with the lovely dentists & waterboard friends - industrial waste
- ie fluoride
- and chlorine

Makes the above two toxic metals - even more toxic
(I am sure that you are aware the small man/small mustache guy used fluoride in the Kamps - and the Ruskies too in the gooly-gags ...to subdue/sedate/zombify...their guests)

You have also previously mentioned the snoozin' effects of the TV over stimulation of brain waves.
- couple that with Cell Tower frequencies
- add in the GWEN towers still in play...on other duties of course (after being banned by congress re their "potential" for.... misuse in mind control)
- then throw in for good measure - the adverse effects of routers....and "smart meters" too.

And - it really is a testimony to the resiliance of the... other humans amongst us
- that we can even tie our shoe laces
- or find our way back from the garden shed
(& that's without....presciption meds....pleasantries)

We can but try
- although as the cycles - not our time...article makes clear
-how did we ourselves awaken
- first just a little
- then...suddenly....a lot

I get the feeling the majority- will either experience the wake up - just a little then suddenly a lot....at the same "too late" instant
- if they awake at all.

gazkaz - 13 Dec 2013 02:11 - 969 of 1034

Sahara
- re the solar flares/emp/carrington effect.

Yes they have been talking about it "big style" since the Korean change of leadership & last autumns park all the hardware offshore of Iran....on the EMP front.

The grid shut down excercise last month re the U.S Canada (& from memory maybe Mexico too)
- does seem to be getting intensive....on the "stage setting" front.

The outgoing head of the Dept Of Homebuoy Sec. - also - essentially said to the incoming incumbent

- Sorry the Cyber attack and/or disaster
- looks like it's going to be...on your watch
- but bye....gotta go.

So has a look of "directed" history in play.

Putting the "small foil hat "on....Mandela - was kept running on pilot light only...until
- it recently....got blown out.

Putting the "medium foil hat on".....just as the most spectacular comet (ISON) passed Mars....the Mars Rover...and all the space based telescope feeds
- got sent on furlow - due to the budget shutdown
- on musch of the run into the perihelion around the sun
(Strange for an automatic feed....but there you go).

In addition...there have been several gliches and hiccups in the space telescope feeds
- after...they came back from shutdown furlow
- and I watched one you/T where......
- a guy had allegedly recorded live feeds of ISON....and then showed the current archived version of the same footage....complete with....a blurred smudge out of.....(Well it seemed interesting...whatever it was in his original capture)
- weird shit...as some say.

The several hundred million mie tail, is again, alledgedly fanning out/widening at 2 million miles a day.
- and whilst the big lumps that survived around the sun...should...wing their way over the North pole with a multi million mile clearance
- what sized fanning out debris we are likely to pass thro'
- seems anybodys guess at the moment

Putting on the XL Foil Hat....many of the great and good - will soon be a 20min drive away from a S.African....deep bunker :o)

All in all the PTB have the ground and space based exotic hardware...to simulate/create any.... natural looking disaster.

And generally speaking...with O'Barmy ratings at an all time low.....and the other stuff seemingly hanging together by a thread

- one of those Flaggy Falsies may be brewing over the near term perhaps.



gazkaz - 13 Dec 2013 02:15 - 970 of 1034

Jim Rickards
- as we know took part in 5-a-goons "currency war" games excercise (subsequently writing a book on the subject).

It seems China....are now involved in similar - scenario play out planning

http://www.ingoldwetrust.ch/china-prepares-for-financial-warfare

gazkaz - 13 Dec 2013 02:53 - 971 of 1034

Pastor Williams
- as master of padding 10mins out into an hour plus show...I have.... only scanned along.... the interview in about 5/10mins but......

Allegedly ....his elite contacts/friends have advised him

1)
- 200 plus countries will announce a - Global - currency reset
(with I think it was then - only a 5% trading range of each other).

Seemingly this will occur within around 90 days of.....the implementation of "O'Barmy Care"

(sorry I have lost the plot on O/Care implementation - thought it was 1st Jan 14, but gather bugger all people have actually signed up at the moment, and poss moves to reschedule/revise/ammend/recind it altogether....so as to a date on that score ???)

2)
Collapse of the Dollar....Banks Doors Closing.....18m Time ( I imagine that relates to US)

3)
Towards the end (I think about 44min in)....interesting comments re smart meters....plus
(coincidence re - my earlier post comments re....people going into "standby/brain offline mode"




I do of course have doubts & whether he is knowingly/unknowingly complicit
- in TPTB game

But to his credit 15m or so ago when ....every commentator... and his dog
- was ranting on about the hardware parked off Iran....and imminent war
- he said -" not going to happen" and won't for ...I think it was... 18m*...and an
- if at all*
(So he was right on that one so far)

There was also....Much addo - about the collapse of the dollar ...that was also in vogue back then (Still is)
- he said - the elite were not yet ready
- and I think back then he intimated.....2015 *being pencilled in.
(so correct so far....and the current 18m time...is still....2015)

Could be way off on recollection of the *forward dates/if at all* - he gave last year
- but - both the.... not yets... are correct

gazkaz - 13 Dec 2013 02:57 - 972 of 1034

Goldcore.com

- states US & BofE - state have been carrying out joint exercise re..... dealing with collapse of.... a major bank.
- they state that ..... the US - is ready now
- and emphasise - they mean now - as in today

Saturn6 - 13 Dec 2013 14:02 - 973 of 1034

Phew Gaz!! - All the different ways in which we are under attack as you point out above could easily place us into a state of willing acceptance of whatever they decide without us really knowing any better. ((

I mean, mercury/thimerasol, microwaves, floride GWEN etc etc!!...As you say

'- that we can even tie our shoe laces
- or find our way back from the garden shed'

...is a MYSTERY.

Wearing a foil hat maybe should be taken more seriously ;-/

It would seem the pensions are the next cash hoard to be acquiesced, and that makes a lot of sense, and as he points out; this has started to occur already in Poland and Michigan.

Keep stacking the physical before the currency re-set. I am liking the look of agri and other commodities again around here and may start accumulating, although a bit perturbed by having to find a storage facility to handle 2-3 hundred k, bu of wheat etc ((

S.



Saturn6 - 13 Dec 2013 14:40 - 974 of 1034

Miners may have plotted a 'Bear Trap' and if so need to prove it forthwith...



If they stay in a tight range today we will see a 'Doji Harami' appear on the weeekly chart and we should all know what to look for next/?...



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gazkaz - 13 Dec 2013 17:52 - 975 of 1034

Sahara - lol
(If you know the secret of stacking bushels you can cut down storage requirements by a good 25% :o)

I think there will be a lot of - painting the tapes - into the year end
- Bankster and fund managers 13 pieces of silver at stake an' all, plus setting the stage for 2014

........................................................................................................................

This is another - of those compact/condensed articles - that really does ...
- cram in more information & facts than you can shake a stick at, re the BIG picture

- everything from how TPTB all connect.

(everybody from Col Olly North, Condelissa Paddy Field, Yeltsin, Bush's I & II, Marcoss Gold,Barrick Mining, FEMA...and lots more...all connected into and through a nice 911 wrapper.....even Greenspan)

- and there's a - darn sight more gold above ground ......than the traditional olympic size swimming pools's worth !!!

The alleged - leased & central bank gold.....is more likely.....the "laundered in" gold
(coughBarricKcough)

I think it also blows out the water
- Bix Weirs "Road To Roota" theory...that Greenspan is really - one of the ...good guys.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/17233336/September-11-Commission-Report-Revised-December-2008

Like Mullins
- May the author also - hopefully - "live long and prosper" (as the vulcan said)

Saturn6 - 15 Dec 2013 10:45 - 976 of 1034

Cheers Gaz - Have passed that little beauty 9/11 report onto my notebook for night-time reading.

Seriously thought of hoarding agri items but there is a lot of serious needs to consider temp, hygene, mosture etc, besides the cost of delivery and storaage of course. Also I did sell all but one of my warehouses this year and thats only a small one and is on agreement for the tennant to buy after Apr/05/14. But intrigued to know about your secret 25% volume reduction of bu? Although I suspect it may be freeze drying?

Buying into diversified privately held farms is probably a better option for now/?

Thanks for all the great posts and links.

S.

Saturn6 - 15 Dec 2013 10:53 - 977 of 1034

Silver RSI popped out of the downtrend but was rebuffed by the centre line. Also price fell below the 10/DMA and is being held in check by that MA now. It needs to bust above there to confirm the buy signal on the McD....



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Saturn6 - 16 Dec 2013 09:12 - 978 of 1034

Looking for an up candle on the $FTSE today to complete the bullish 'Morning Star' formation, which should be the start of the Santa Rally to take us to year end/?...



With the FOMC rate decision on wednesday watch for any hint of 'tapering' to cause voaltility in the markets, an exogenous shock could thwart the typically bullish year end rally where Dec is up over 70% of the time over the last 20 years and up even more of the time during the second half of Dec...



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Saturn6 - 16 Dec 2013 10:57 - 979 of 1034

I am expecting a bounce from here on the miners and will swallow my pride if found to be incorrect. And here is what I would envisage if I am on the right track...



Here are the other charts I am looking at for guidance...




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gazkaz - 17 Dec 2013 00:26 - 980 of 1034

Sahara
Apologies my sense of humour and cross purposes
- I didn't realise you were serious on the taking delivery/storing large volume of physical bushels.....I "assumed" you were refering mainly to - trading agri contracts/option/futurescommodities....and
- the storage was more a - tongue in cheek.
(my reply was an attempt at humour - based on a completely wrong "assumption" :o)

So hands up - I'm guilty of what those ....annoying cliche people - say
assume - and you make an...... "ass" of "U" & "me"
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